linkblade91 - I like the idea behind the card but the SI7 connection feels a bit forced. It should turn only into minions imo to better fit the double agent vibe, and it should be a legendary (poor Chameleos)
anchorm4n - i hate it cause it would make Shudderwock decks even more frustrating. It's just a bit too much hard removal packed into a single card without any downside or requirement.
Wailor - I adore the art and i beg you to use it still for other ideas. The polymorph on hero power is not too great i fear. Mage has several ways to make their hp cost 0 and spam it on more targets in a single turn. This would become a new auto include hard removal combo in every control mage deck just like shaman does with [Hearthstone Card (Toxifin) Not Found] and [Hearthstone Card (Firamancer Murgl) Not Found]. An idea maybe worth trying something that poymorphs your own things in a good way. Sheep army. fear the sheep.
Hope this counts. Basically when you draw the legendary you get these 2 minions in hand. This lets you play half of the minion early in case you need to control the board or feel it could survive to get the big minion earlier than turn 8. When they reunite and transform, it's a brand new minion with rush so you can attack with it right away.
Made the quest a bit more interesting and hard to complete. The different mana cost requirement works better with the actual reward and it asks you to keep track of the values yourself. Of course it's possible the enemy does not have minions of 5 different costs but most shadow spells can target friendly minions too, or damage them anyway as they are bilateral boardclears. Could use this to resummon specific minions you want with L'ura for just 5 mana and do some combo!
New idea. No one here decided to go down the hero power reward path of Uldum so i made this. Why warrior and druid? Well, worgens are connected to druids lore wise. As for warrior... idk, armor and attacking stuff i guess. The idea is that you basically have a 2 part her power. You can only use the human form if you triggered the worgen form. Of course you can just go face with the worgen form, but the quest is viable as both control and aggro strategies.
Demonxz95 - It's strange seeing Darius on a hunter card lol. Volcanic Forging seems a bit op as it's Mind Blast each turn at worst, and even more toxic immovable object at best (Bulwark of Azzinoth!!!). Legion Expedition seems ok balance wise but i'd suggest different art. The crystal alcoves i like cause it reminds me of Dragon Soul. This at least seems to be playable. One day my precious....
CursedParrot - Not a fan of cards that are basically "add this older cooler card to your hand".
linkblade91 - Mad Summoner into Hagatha's Scheme otk. Idea is cool, near impossible to balance sadly. And i think shaman has had enough game winning quest rewards, right? xD
MrRhapsody - Giving all minions charge is a really bad idea (see Mr. Smite). The second reward doesn't really have synergy with the quest requirements. I guess it works for eggs but on the warrior side the enrage and self damage minions kinda suffer.
A lore friendly quest to two classes that loves hitting their own minions. Just to be clear, to advance the quest you would need to directly deal the damage, minions surviving damage would not count towards quest progression. Kinda feel like it is too week right now, so I would like a second opinion on that matter.
If anything this seems too OP. A single Whirlwind or Rain of Fire will complete it if you have 4 or 3 minions. The random demon part is the scariest because most of the time you will get a huge body for just 2 mana. Even a 3/4 would be huge but you can regularly pop out stuff over 6 mana.
Miracle of Shadows is hard to analyse how OP would be. I am certain there is a possible broken combo somewhere but I cant think of it.
I like Keep the Balance more but the wording needs help. The way it is makes me think I need spells that have 2 spell schools. 5 health per turn might also be a bit too much, 3 seems more balanced.
This is the first idea i had. Common Shadow synergy between warlock and priest, some resummoning and minion stealing, all in all a simple mesh of themes.
This one i foresee people hating because people hate secrets. Maybe 10 secrets at once it's too much given rogue has bounces. Might make it a spell.
I wanted to do a different class combo for the 3rd idea but then i saw link say you can't make a Xal'atath quest. WELL I CAN! Control focused card with the theme of board clears that priest and warlock have so many of. And the reward basically makes the enemy hero have 15 max hp, making it easier to finish them off.
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linkblade91 - Looking for Group is a great idea, but i feel Teamfight tactics might be a bit OP. I can see this very easily spiraling out of control. Control the skies is a much nicer one and the reward is cool. 7 cards might be too much through but i suppose to make use of the reward you'd want to stuff as many armor cards as you can.
To attract more people, I believe having the competition panel be present on the main homepage would help immensely. I mean the main homepage, not just the hearthstone one. We do have hearthstone achievement guides pinned at the top of the article list already so the argument that non hearthstone people would be annoyed doesn't stand. Weekly "invitation" articles could help too.
I don't know why the custom scene has died out so much. I remember when there were 7 or so pages of discussion on hearthpwn. I really hope it bounces back, I adore these competitions.
Finalist voting also fucks me over at times and the number of people voting 1 stars is strange indeed. There are some individuals with very polarised opinions. Alone it wouldn't matter much, but since finalist voting has so few voters it can get skewed. At the whelp competition, there were 12-13 votes in the finals per card. In the normal phase there were 25-37 votes per card. That's more than a 50% loss in voters.
Another idea is having the finalist phase be advertised by an article on the main page. And you can put the cards in a grid with the stars beneath just like when you have card reveals.
Basically, hit an enemy and you'll damage yourself as well, or hit yourself/friendly minion directly to draw a card.
Wailor - I love infinite Whelp, however it might be slightly too good for an epic given he's essentially a better Vanessa VanCleef. Onyxia's Brat is fine too.
MrRhapsody - Lord Nefarious is OP in druid with Scale of Onyxia. Corrupted Onyxia is nice on flavor but a board full of dragons is again very very strong. Dragonqueen Alexstrasza only have you 3 dragons really. Raid Boss Onyxia is very played today so corrupting a 9 mana card is not that hard. And again, druid. Single Broodmother for me is the best, a 5 star card. Love the flavor, the effect is powerful but not OP, overall great.
AeroJulwin - Paladin indeed doesn't really have much whelp generating cards. I feel in general this Whelp buff effect is just too narrow to be good, cause it only really has synergy with 2 or 3 cards total. Also priest rarely if ever has divine shields.
linkblade91 - Interesting idea! Never seen this before. not sure if it's too good or not, could really do some swingy turns with a bunch of burst from Wrathscale Naga, then dropping 2 Ur'zul Giant for free. Still, i like it.
Demonxz95 - Does it work like High Abbess Alura? If so it's even stronger than her before her nerf. you get 2 of them and it doesn't rely on the Spellburts. Admittedly the whelp is weaker than a 3/6. Best outcomes are Tip the Scales, Libram of Hope, Dinosize, Spikeridged Steed. IMO it's too good at 4 mana and the fact it doesn't actually use the spell. The idea is solid though, if you can balance it.
Marvel's been on the decline lately. The MCU popularity took a hit with the latest somewhat underwhelming films, and people in general got a bit fed up with the whole superhero stuff. I fear this game, even if it is well designed, may be just too late. There are some big competitors for them to challenge, like MTg, Hearthstone and Legends of Runeterra.
I agree with all what anchorm4n said. Finalist voting feels bad and too low engagement, more rating options would be awesome and some 2nd place and 3rd place rewards could be good for attracting new people. I personally suggest we at least increase the Finalist stage from 1 day to 2, just to squeeze in a few more votes.
And i know it would be very hard to do, but i really wish for a big comp again. A custom class or custom expansion competition.
Changed it to an epic with slightly bad stats. I also had a second idea which is more a meme but hell, why not? Axes and Swords we have plenty, hammers less so for warrior. But still enough to complete the requirement (The Unstoppable Force, Supercollider, Blacksmithing Hammer, Sulfuras, etc.)
AeroJulwin - Not bad, effect is pretty nice. However i fail to see the flavor connection.
Arkasaur - Grim Incantations is cool, though on the weaker side i'd say. Compare to Twisted Knowledge. True that one also discovers minions but it could be argued that's a good thing rather than bad. At best your card will discover 3 spells (fire, fel and shadow), so for Standard maybe it's enough. Gift of N'Zoth is better imo but R raises a correct issue. I'd say given how Tent Trasher works with amalgams that it would only count for 1 tribe per amalgam, and it always selects one you haven't played yet. Kinda like a Joker at poker. Also, very kinky art :P
Might be too OP, but who knows. Realistically this would be a mage staple but it's a worse [Hearthstone Card (Wild Fire) Not Found] for them. It could give reason for other classes to use strange spells like Whirlpool in priest.
linkblade91 - Seems a bit scary at how good it is for tutoring honestly. But it's a decent idea.
Wailor - Yeah, i think it's too simple and weak to get any love, but i honestly like the idea. Maybe if it did something other than just gain stats.
Demonxz95 - I don't like the caretaker because it feels too similar/derivative of Menagerie Magician. And Tisha... Divine Spirit. That's just the top of my head but i'm sure most buffs would be too good.
Alright so, seems most people did not vibe with the weapon. That kinda makes me sad because, it's impossible to not include Shalamayne in a dual class King Anduin card. it's iconic! So, here is a new idea:
This version is a bit less paladin-ish. yes you still get a weapon but you have a choice! Swing it for 3 heal on a single target or wait out for the radiating damage instead. If the enemy has a couple or no minions attacking is better. But if they have a full board and generally play a swarmy deck, not swinging is more beneficial. My idea of making a weapon that can also be more caster/passive (how priest usually has them).
Now onto the Hero power. This i'm afraid that people won't realize what it does. it doesn't heal, It gives Health! So you can both make yourself and a minion tankier, playing more into that buffer/high health theme. The fact your max hp can go over 30 now means healing stuff is also better to play in your deck, less wasted value on overheal, something both paladin and priest love.
Finally the battlecry. Just wanted to reinforce the Holy synergy, still keep that in.
Anduin in the lore naturally evolves to a paladin or paladin/priest hybrid, and so this comp is the perfect occasion to show that. Combines life gain, weapons, removal, summoning dudes and holy spell synergy! The latter is more a paladin thing nowadays but i'm still hoping holy priest becomes a thing.
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linkblade - i like the idea, though the multi targeting thing is a bit strange. I feel like the card could be abused to only have it as the only destroy effect in the deck, and so you summon the same thing over and over again.
Wailor - simple, but effective. I like the hero power but not sure on the battlecry. Gaining 20 attack to smack one minion feels sad. And druid can do the combo with Soulbound Ashtongue and Silas Darkmoon much easier with 20 mana...
Demonxz95 - sorry but i don't get the battlecry. So you draw a minion, and it gains stuff i understand that part. But what bonus battlecries does it get? "It gains every Battlecry copied by this" no where in the text does your card ever mention copying stuff.
Neoguli - I don't see the demon hunter flavor in this to be honest. Seems like it's a better Magister Dawngrasp to me. And i feel a 1 mana deal 1 damage summon a 2/2 is kinda too strong. Even at 2 mana it's pretty good.
Damn slow week huh?
Hope this counts. Basically when you draw the legendary you get these 2 minions in hand. This lets you play half of the minion early in case you need to control the board or feel it could survive to get the big minion earlier than turn 8. When they reunite and transform, it's a brand new minion with rush so you can attack with it right away.
Made the quest a bit more interesting and hard to complete. The different mana cost requirement works better with the actual reward and it asks you to keep track of the values yourself. Of course it's possible the enemy does not have minions of 5 different costs but most shadow spells can target friendly minions too, or damage them anyway as they are bilateral boardclears. Could use this to resummon specific minions you want with L'ura for just 5 mana and do some combo!
New idea. No one here decided to go down the hero power reward path of Uldum so i made this. Why warrior and druid? Well, worgens are connected to druids lore wise. As for warrior... idk, armor and attacking stuff i guess. The idea is that you basically have a 2 part her power. You can only use the human form if you triggered the worgen form. Of course you can just go face with the worgen form, but the quest is viable as both control and aggro strategies.
If anything this seems too OP. A single Whirlwind or Rain of Fire will complete it if you have 4 or 3 minions. The random demon part is the scariest because most of the time you will get a huge body for just 2 mana. Even a 3/4 would be huge but you can regularly pop out stuff over 6 mana.
@Wailor
Miracle of Shadows is hard to analyse how OP would be. I am certain there is a possible broken combo somewhere but I cant think of it.
I like Keep the Balance more but the wording needs help. The way it is makes me think I need spells that have 2 spell schools. 5 health per turn might also be a bit too much, 3 seems more balanced.
This is an awesome prompt!
This is the first idea i had. Common Shadow synergy between warlock and priest, some resummoning and minion stealing, all in all a simple mesh of themes.
This one i foresee people hating because people hate secrets. Maybe 10 secrets at once it's too much given rogue has bounces. Might make it a spell.
I wanted to do a different class combo for the 3rd idea but then i saw link say you can't make a Xal'atath quest. WELL I CAN! Control focused card with the theme of board clears that priest and warlock have so many of. And the reward basically makes the enemy hero have 15 max hp, making it easier to finish them off.
Feedback:
Many exams, sorry for low engagement from me.
If you have 7 cards in hand, you gain 3 coins and summon a 7 cost dragon. If you have 2 cards in hand you get 8 coins and summon a 2 cost dragon.
To attract more people, I believe having the competition panel be present on the main homepage would help immensely. I mean the main homepage, not just the hearthstone one. We do have hearthstone achievement guides pinned at the top of the article list already so the argument that non hearthstone people would be annoyed doesn't stand. Weekly "invitation" articles could help too.
I don't know why the custom scene has died out so much. I remember when there were 7 or so pages of discussion on hearthpwn. I really hope it bounces back, I adore these competitions.
Finalist voting also fucks me over at times and the number of people voting 1 stars is strange indeed. There are some individuals with very polarised opinions. Alone it wouldn't matter much, but since finalist voting has so few voters it can get skewed. At the whelp competition, there were 12-13 votes in the finals per card. In the normal phase there were 25-37 votes per card. That's more than a 50% loss in voters.
Another idea is having the finalist phase be advertised by an article on the main page. And you can put the cards in a grid with the stars beneath just like when you have card reveals.
It does not. Explosive Trap only counts as one but hits up to 8 targets. Barbed Nets only count as one.
This is beyond meme. this is a whole new level. They maybe won't be the best cards in the game but damn if they aren't the funniest.
Adjusted the text slightly, maybe it looks better now.
Basically, hit an enemy and you'll damage yourself as well, or hit yourself/friendly minion directly to draw a card.
Abyssal curse buffs YES! By far my favorite deck this expansion and now it may even win some games!
Buffs are the best thing they can do. Turning bad cards into good is 100 times better feeling than turning good cards bad.
Well almost all the devs at Second Diner are ex Hearthstone devs. Course they could make something new, but it feels unlikely.
Marvel's been on the decline lately. The MCU popularity took a hit with the latest somewhat underwhelming films, and people in general got a bit fed up with the whole superhero stuff. I fear this game, even if it is well designed, may be just too late. There are some big competitors for them to challenge, like MTg, Hearthstone and Legends of Runeterra.
I agree with all what anchorm4n said. Finalist voting feels bad and too low engagement, more rating options would be awesome and some 2nd place and 3rd place rewards could be good for attracting new people. I personally suggest we at least increase the Finalist stage from 1 day to 2, just to squeeze in a few more votes.
And i know it would be very hard to do, but i really wish for a big comp again. A custom class or custom expansion competition.
Changed it to an epic with slightly bad stats. I also had a second idea which is more a meme but hell, why not? Axes and Swords we have plenty, hammers less so for warrior. But still enough to complete the requirement (The Unstoppable Force, Supercollider, Blacksmithing Hammer, Sulfuras, etc.)
Might be too OP, but who knows. Realistically this would be a mage staple but it's a worse [Hearthstone Card (Wild Fire) Not Found] for them. It could give reason for other classes to use strange spells like Whirlpool in priest.
Alright so, seems most people did not vibe with the weapon. That kinda makes me sad because, it's impossible to not include Shalamayne in a dual class King Anduin card. it's iconic! So, here is a new idea:
This version is a bit less paladin-ish. yes you still get a weapon but you have a choice! Swing it for 3 heal on a single target or wait out for the radiating damage instead. If the enemy has a couple or no minions attacking is better. But if they have a full board and generally play a swarmy deck, not swinging is more beneficial. My idea of making a weapon that can also be more caster/passive (how priest usually has them).
Now onto the Hero power. This i'm afraid that people won't realize what it does. it doesn't heal, It gives Health! So you can both make yourself and a minion tankier, playing more into that buffer/high health theme. The fact your max hp can go over 30 now means healing stuff is also better to play in your deck, less wasted value on overheal, something both paladin and priest love.
Finally the battlecry. Just wanted to reinforce the Holy synergy, still keep that in.
Anduin in the lore naturally evolves to a paladin or paladin/priest hybrid, and so this comp is the perfect occasion to show that. Combines life gain, weapons, removal, summoning dudes and holy spell synergy! The latter is more a paladin thing nowadays but i'm still hoping holy priest becomes a thing.
Feedback: