Seeing how the only confirmed hero power (Rogue) is "add a lackey to your hand" I don't think it'S that crazy. If you look at the Invokers, they are all miserably statted cards.
Rogue literally gets a 3-mana Backstab with spelldamage +1...adding a lacky on top of that seems reasonable at best.
It will really depend on the HP, since Rogue it's the only one seen so far, yeah, it is ok. But if something crazy comes for any of the other classes, well... Let's say that rogue also has the 1-mana give a minion +1/0, "Invoke" AND add a Lackey to your hand. For 1 mana is strong... Let's just think of Zoolock if it becomes a thing... 1-mana +1/0 to all minions AND... do something else.
Knowing Warlock it won't be broken, but... Nothing's broken until it is.
Sooooooooooo... If you "Invoke", and don't have Galakrond neither in your hand or in play, you nonetheless activate it's HP and advance in upgrading him?
I would love to fight these Evolve Shamans and Secret Pallies over Quest Druid any day of the week. But sadly, they keep popping up in my queue for some reason. Unpopular opinion, but the deck is as degenerate as they come.
Infinite Quest Druid or Maly Quest Druid?
Kun the Forgotten King it's really unhealthy for the meta when you can copy it, infinitely...
But both of them suffer heavy early game disadvantage against aggro, but both of them can highroll lategame.
I've been playing Infinite just for the sake of fun, you either die really early or you just make your opponent concede.
I suppose it is nice to see it from the other side of the coin. Personally, I have had very bad experiences with Quest Druids.
When playing aggro decks, they always complete their quest by turn 5, then I proceed to get outvalued by Oasis Surgers and Starfall into Anubisath Defender. All my damage also gets healed by Hidden Oasis into a massive taunt, and unless I can get a Siamat with Windfury going, it is almost always a complete loss.
Same with control decks, the hordes of Oasis Surgers and things like Cenarius are just way too efficient at contesting the board for me to make any headway into their 30+ armour points. By the time I can get on board, I just get mowed down by Malygos or they fill the board with Kuns and gain 60+ armour in one turn.
It feels kind of like nothing I do against the deck works. Even when playing combo, they can get their combo out faster and safer than any other combo decks, then out-armour the combo decks. They just destroy Control decks with their massive value and potential infinite value/burst from hand. Aggro seems to be the only option here. I have not had much success as they can even clear me when I am high-rolling and somehow defeat a fully evolved board with an 8 drop thrown in through some weird combination of Surgers, Taunts and Starfall.
It was very demoralizing to play against Quest Druid most of the time, and I understand they may not be a problem in the meta at the moment, but it feels good to vent my frustrations against this particular deck.
I get what you mean, and totally agree, but still, aggro is the real winner against it, and maaaaaaaaaaaaybe Big decks like Quest Paladin with late game package.
I faced two Carpet Warlocks today, and I got a really bad mulligan, one destroyed me by turn 6 and the other by turn 4, both games I went first, which is a real bummer as QD, (getting that Quest-Coin is really important), by the time I drew Swipe/Starfall, I was too low/behind to really do anything and my quest wasn't finished. The turn 3 8/8 in warlock is insane for a tempo play against a controlish deck like QD.
And also faced a Big Pally which, once the quest was done, it obliterated me into oblivion... Like "Mmmph... If I Starfall, I got to deal with 2 7/7, if I don't, sonner or latter I'm gonna face an entire board of 2/2 deathrattle... 7/7... The sob even got to play and maintain a Colossus of the Moon...
In the end... The deck is really strong against most archetypes and can snowball hard af in the late game (turns 15+) but if you think about it, it sacrifices too much of early tempo, (even more if not on the coin) and with bad card draw, it doesn't stand a chance against a zooish board.
I would love to fight these Evolve Shamans and Secret Pallies over Quest Druid any day of the week. But sadly, they keep popping up in my queue for some reason. Unpopular opinion, but the deck is as degenerate as they come.
Infinite Quest Druid or Maly Quest Druid?
Kun the Forgotten King it's really unhealthy for the meta when you can copy it, infinitely...
But both of them suffer heavy early game disadvantage against aggro, but both of them can highroll lategame.
I've been playing Infinite just for the sake of fun, you either die really early or you just make your opponent concede.
Might see if its brother Go`rath appear as well.
They are from wow's raid Dragon Soul.
There's too much Old God hinting in this expansion!
The artwork is from Mindbender Ghur'sha from wow's dungeon Throne of Tides. Really interesting to seeing him here.
So, Da Undatakah + Immortal Prelate + Dragonrider Talritha in a Dragon deck should be good? Right? Susceptible to silence and such but good in paper, right?
Maybe... Just maybe... Token Paladin? Give it divine shield and hope it survives so you can trade little guys every turn?
Nah, just a cool flavor card... Or maybe...
Everybody says "Arena"... Dragon warrior with Crowd Roaster was good, this might be good for standard as well... I want to believe!
Galakrond... When Plague of Death wasn't enough of a board clear, and you need to end the enemy right away.
I predict: Galakrond turn 10, HP, Northshire Cleric created by it.
"Inspire"? It's a shame Blizz doesn't want to bring that keyword again, it was a fun mechanic.
*Edit: If it was sarcasm, I'm really bad at noticing lol
Really low health for the mana cost... Of course it's a 5/3 in pieces, but with such low health it's not great, even for zoo.
So, it's either "Holy Sh*t! I've summoned 4 Jumbo Imps!" or "Why the Witchwood Imps... AGAIN!?"
Gamble Warlock?
My Dragon Warrior is happy now
This should be illegal... A team with 2 Kolentos.
Supposedly 5 separate Hero cards.
"If you don’t have a Galakrond as your Hero, or in your hand or deck, then Invoking has no effect."
Yeah, but I don't think it will be on par with Bloodreaver + Skull + Cube + Void.
Cubelock was insane, and I don't think they wanna risk it that much.
Either way, it'll be hit or miss, that's what I think.
https://playhearthstone.com/en-us/blog/23156373/introducing-hearthstone-battlegrounds
See for yourself. Seems kinda interesting.
It's like Teamfight Tactics from LoL, only... On cards in Hearthstone? It's strange, I want to try it out.
It will really depend on the HP, since Rogue it's the only one seen so far, yeah, it is ok. But if something crazy comes for any of the other classes, well... Let's say that rogue also has the 1-mana give a minion +1/0, "Invoke" AND add a Lackey to your hand. For 1 mana is strong... Let's just think of Zoolock if it becomes a thing... 1-mana +1/0 to all minions AND... do something else.
Knowing Warlock it won't be broken, but... Nothing's broken until it is.
Sooooooooooo... If you "Invoke", and don't have Galakrond neither in your hand or in play, you nonetheless activate it's HP and advance in upgrading him?
That's insane...
I get what you mean, and totally agree, but still, aggro is the real winner against it, and maaaaaaaaaaaaybe Big decks like Quest Paladin with late game package.
I faced two Carpet Warlocks today, and I got a really bad mulligan, one destroyed me by turn 6 and the other by turn 4, both games I went first, which is a real bummer as QD, (getting that Quest-Coin is really important), by the time I drew Swipe/Starfall, I was too low/behind to really do anything and my quest wasn't finished. The turn 3 8/8 in warlock is insane for a tempo play against a controlish deck like QD.
And also faced a Big Pally which, once the quest was done, it obliterated me into oblivion... Like "Mmmph... If I Starfall, I got to deal with 2 7/7, if I don't, sonner or latter I'm gonna face an entire board of 2/2 deathrattle... 7/7... The sob even got to play and maintain a Colossus of the Moon...
In the end... The deck is really strong against most archetypes and can snowball hard af in the late game (turns 15+) but if you think about it, it sacrifices too much of early tempo, (even more if not on the coin) and with bad card draw, it doesn't stand a chance against a zooish board.
Edit: Today I played a Shaman... Look at turn 5... https://hsreplay.net/replay/Smwa2QLuNhq2kYPaaUt3g9 This is why Infinite druid is not that strong lol
Infinite Quest Druid or Maly Quest Druid?
Kun the Forgotten King it's really unhealthy for the meta when you can copy it, infinitely...
But both of them suffer heavy early game disadvantage against aggro, but both of them can highroll lategame.
I've been playing Infinite just for the sake of fun, you either die really early or you just make your opponent concede.
Rexxar looking at Valeera: "WTF? Why she's a pirate?"
Now seriously, why is Valeera a pirate, and why does Rexxar has that "WTF" face...
The rest of them, look sick af.