many thanks for the insights. You are absolutely right in every point. If a party is at fault here it's Blizzard. Datamining is legit and public is public and not private. One advice for Blizz: If you do not want to release something just do not publish it :) Keep up the good work!
P.S. Blizzard is my favorite game company and I genuinely believe there a loads of good people there, but it's blunder after blunder in the recent past. Hope they get better again.
They released 50+ mercs but but basically you only encouter 1-2 specific combos. Not going to bother playing PvP until this is better. But perfectly fits the beta-esque impression of the entire mode.
you already pretty much said everything in this thread and I fully agree. I don't think it is a bad mode, but it nevertheless feels like a missed opportunity. My biggest point personally is the gameplay or the lack of it. Battles always play out pretty much the same with little variance. Instead of squeezing 50+ mercs in the mode they should have put a little more focus on the actual gameplay and mechanics. Really can't see me spending more than 5 bucks on it in its current form. On the other hand it neatly fits in the recent HS development: Ramp up of monetization with flat or even declining content quality. Again, it is not bad but I would certainly expect more from Blizzard if they want my money.
Wild player here: I guess Wild is in a OK state right now. Could be better but overall not too bad. Since The Demon Seed nerf I see a lot more decks, even some Reno variants. People seem to be annoyed about Odd Quest Hunter a bit, but I personally find it is beatable by a variety of decks.
Btw: Quest Mage must be a standard thing. I hardly encounter any in Wild.
Kind of unexpected for me but not undeserved. This card in Arena is on par with legendary bombs like Ysera or the Rat King in terms of win rate. And it is just a rare.
I already play HS and MTGA, so there is and was no room for another CCG. I think the problem simply boils down to this: The CCG space is already crowded and there is no room for a newcomer. Breaking into this segment of the games market is extremely difficult. HS and LoR only became successful on the back of their already very popular parent franchise. MTGA has been around for decades now and has a very dedicated playerbase. Between these three Mythgard did not have a chance despite all the things they did right. They did not have the money and they did not have the playerbase.
I usually think that Dean's opinion is pretty spot on, but this time I feel that he is a bit off. Quests in UnGuro for most classes were pretty weak and nothing compared to the recent quests, which totally warp the meta. Also he overestimates the disadvantage of having to build a deck around it. In most classes that is hardly a downside currently.
Favoring players simply because of their home country is something that should not happen in HS, even if it is just a rather minor thing like a cosmetic. Not angry but I think it is a stupid move.
I am not offended (why should I it's a game after all) though I consider the whole UI to be well let's say far from optimal. I get the point that the box is somewhat iconic (is it really?) but I think that this is a rather weak argument. One of the key principles of modern design is that form follows function. In this case it is the other way round. Imo bad design but nothing to be offended about (slightly annoyed maybe).
P.S. I bet that they will not change it any time soon
appreciate your opinion. Thanks for the response. I think you are a bit lenient with them though and you overestimate the effort needed here from their side.
1. Yes they obviously have other things to do, but that would be a small thing for them which could be prioritized (obviously this is subjective); also this can be said for any change at any time as they always have other things to do
2. Why not? Many games do it and this would not take much time and effort (I am working in IT myself and no, tweaking one or two cards would definitely not take much time or effort)
3. I don't decide but I 100% believe that The Demon Seed is the right target here. Why nerf multiple cards that were not a problem at all before when one would do? Also this card in its current form limits design space for the future
That would be a rather impactful change imo by the way but that might just be me (might be a bit prejudiced since last week when I lost like eight games in a row against Quest Warlock without seeing any other deck)
I don't know if I should be grateful that they acknowledge the situation in Wild at all or appalled as we have to endure another month of this shit meta. Probably the latter. Nerfing a single card should not take that long.
I actually stopped actively chasing the more difficult achievements because of this. I mean some of them are pretty hard to pull off in the first place and then your opponent concedes. Too frustrating for me.
My brother was pretty heavily playing WoW at that time and I found it interesting. Due to RL I did not want to start WoW myself and HS looked kind of innocent with regards to time committment in comparison. Fast forward to today my brother is long out of WoW and I am still playing HS. I can't remember my actual first Legendary but one of the first was Leeroy Jenkins which I found pretty bad initially and only learned to value later on. My favorite expansion is KFT (yes I know) and I loved the old adventures (the difficult ones).
Well I tried having fun a bit, but turns out pretty much every game I am facing is Quest Warlock. Encountered a single Quest Hunter and no non-quest deck at all. Guess have to wait until Tuesday.
P.S. To illustrate the shift in powerlevel: My trusty Secret Mage which I barely had to alter the last months is now basically an auto lose.
Hi there,
many thanks for the insights. You are absolutely right in every point. If a party is at fault here it's Blizzard. Datamining is legit and public is public and not private. One advice for Blizz: If you do not want to release something just do not publish it :) Keep up the good work!
P.S. Blizzard is my favorite game company and I genuinely believe there a loads of good people there, but it's blunder after blunder in the recent past. Hope they get better again.
They released 50+ mercs but but basically you only encouter 1-2 specific combos. Not going to bother playing PvP until this is better. But perfectly fits the beta-esque impression of the entire mode.
Same here. Seems to be a bug
Hi there,
you already pretty much said everything in this thread and I fully agree. I don't think it is a bad mode, but it nevertheless feels like a missed opportunity. My biggest point personally is the gameplay or the lack of it. Battles always play out pretty much the same with little variance. Instead of squeezing 50+ mercs in the mode they should have put a little more focus on the actual gameplay and mechanics. Really can't see me spending more than 5 bucks on it in its current form. On the other hand it neatly fits in the recent HS development: Ramp up of monetization with flat or even declining content quality. Again, it is not bad but I would certainly expect more from Blizzard if they want my money.
My rating would be 5 out of 10.
Wild player here: I guess Wild is in a OK state right now. Could be better but overall not too bad. Since The Demon Seed nerf I see a lot more decks, even some Reno variants. People seem to be annoyed about Odd Quest Hunter a bit, but I personally find it is beatable by a variety of decks.
Btw: Quest Mage must be a standard thing. I hardly encounter any in Wild.
My prediction: Quest Warrior is now the strongest deck in Wild. But I am quite happy with the Mage buffs.
Not it is not. It is good but has two significant weaknesses: 1) Running out of cards and 2) It folds against armor/lifegain decks
Kind of unexpected for me but not undeserved. This card in Arena is on par with legendary bombs like Ysera or the Rat King in terms of win rate. And it is just a rare.
I already play HS and MTGA, so there is and was no room for another CCG. I think the problem simply boils down to this: The CCG space is already crowded and there is no room for a newcomer. Breaking into this segment of the games market is extremely difficult. HS and LoR only became successful on the back of their already very popular parent franchise. MTGA has been around for decades now and has a very dedicated playerbase. Between these three Mythgard did not have a chance despite all the things they did right. They did not have the money and they did not have the playerbase.
Thanks for the writedown btw.
Totally agree. Could not have written it better.
I usually think that Dean's opinion is pretty spot on, but this time I feel that he is a bit off. Quests in UnGuro for most classes were pretty weak and nothing compared to the recent quests, which totally warp the meta. Also he overestimates the disadvantage of having to build a deck around it. In most classes that is hardly a downside currently.
Favoring players simply because of their home country is something that should not happen in HS, even if it is just a rather minor thing like a cosmetic. Not angry but I think it is a stupid move.
I am not offended (why should I it's a game after all) though I consider the whole UI to be well let's say far from optimal. I get the point that the box is somewhat iconic (is it really?) but I think that this is a rather weak argument. One of the key principles of modern design is that form follows function. In this case it is the other way round. Imo bad design but nothing to be offended about (slightly annoyed maybe).
P.S. I bet that they will not change it any time soon
Hi there,
appreciate your opinion. Thanks for the response. I think you are a bit lenient with them though and you overestimate the effort needed here from their side.
1. Yes they obviously have other things to do, but that would be a small thing for them which could be prioritized (obviously this is subjective); also this can be said for any change at any time as they always have other things to do
2. Why not? Many games do it and this would not take much time and effort (I am working in IT myself and no, tweaking one or two cards would definitely not take much time or effort)
3. I don't decide but I 100% believe that The Demon Seed is the right target here. Why nerf multiple cards that were not a problem at all before when one would do? Also this card in its current form limits design space for the future
That would be a rather impactful change imo by the way but that might just be me (might be a bit prejudiced since last week when I lost like eight games in a row against Quest Warlock without seeing any other deck)
Cheers
I don't know if I should be grateful that they acknowledge the situation in Wild at all or appalled as we have to endure another month of this shit meta. Probably the latter. Nerfing a single card should not take that long.
That's not a nerf that is a joke. I get it that Wild is second class but they could have at least tried.
I actually stopped actively chasing the more difficult achievements because of this. I mean some of them are pretty hard to pull off in the first place and then your opponent concedes. Too frustrating for me.
My brother was pretty heavily playing WoW at that time and I found it interesting. Due to RL I did not want to start WoW myself and HS looked kind of innocent with regards to time committment in comparison. Fast forward to today my brother is long out of WoW and I am still playing HS. I can't remember my actual first Legendary but one of the first was Leeroy Jenkins which I found pretty bad initially and only learned to value later on. My favorite expansion is KFT (yes I know) and I loved the old adventures (the difficult ones).
I'm pretty much only facing Quest Warlock (Wild) and nothing else. Guess have to take a break.
Well I tried having fun a bit, but turns out pretty much every game I am facing is Quest Warlock. Encountered a single Quest Hunter and no non-quest deck at all. Guess have to wait until Tuesday.
P.S. To illustrate the shift in powerlevel: My trusty Secret Mage which I barely had to alter the last months is now basically an auto lose.