I just want to mention, a lot of people struggle to see it when a control card is overpowered. This was a turn 3 board clear most of the time. it absolutely deserves a nerf.
Spring water is a broken card only in a world were No Minion Mage is playable. A deck that is only viable because of Incanters Flow. So I 100% with YourPrivatenightmares statement that this is an incredibly shortsighted nerf. It completely misses the point of what actually is a problem.
Alright time for my shitty review of the nerfs and buffs.
Crabrider this is nerfed in a way I did not expect it. I kind of like it though. It loses its burst potential but keeps it low cost and high health.
[Hearthstone Card (Refreshing Springwater) Not Found] Why they didn't nerf Incanter's Flow is beyond me. But hey, I have two golden copies of this card. This was a very good draw card in a class that has very good draw already. All it does it makes Spell Mage more inconsistent.
First Day of School this card effectively took the role of a one drop in the time that Paladin sorely lacked 1 drops. Now they have 1 drops I don't think this nerf is as effective as it would have been. But we shall see.
Hysteria I did not expect them to nerf this card. Now don't get me wrong. This card is the single best removal card in the game. It is so efficient and most of the time it just clears your opponents board. It is a broken card at 3 and you won't be able to convice me otherwise.
Now onto the buffs in general they seem to be small changes here and there.
Razorboar Not a very big change, but atleast now it will be able to trade better with 1 more attack.
Unbound Elemental , Tidal Surge and Lilypad Lurker are all good buffs that are not going to matter in the slightest. With that I mean in a vacuum it is a good thing, Unbound Elemental Should have been at 3/4 to begin with, and it might see play in an overload centric deck now, but I wouldn't hold my breath. Tidal Surge should have never been 4 mana. In what world is it reasonable that you pay 2 mana more for 1 more damage than Penance and Drain Life [Hearthstone Card (.Lilypad Lurker) Not Found] good card without useful synergy becomes a better card without useful synergy. What Shaman is lacking sorely is card draw. These are all good buffs in a vacuum, but not what Shaman needs.
N'Zoth, God of the Deep I would love for this card to be playable I don't think the problem is cost, but moreso the lack of synergies you get in your deck with play a ton of different tribes.
Buffing multiple control decks is a waste of time. Its incredibly hard in this game for multiple control decks to exist at the same time as one will always out value another and push it out of the meta
I'll gladly accept that its a shaman card. In mage it simply makes the casino nature of the deck even worse. I swear the win rate of this card should be a lot higher than it ever seems.
I love mage, its my favourite class but that card just tilts me so fucking hard.
Spell mages always having ice barrier from ring toss, always having the perfect devolving missiles, 283012938912 removal which they just so happen to draw into every single time. Getting overstatted crap from apexis blast. Just so tired of this deck. Give me paladin all day, atleast it doesn´t feel like they rng clownfiesta you while drawing and playing 89018293210 cards a turn.
Edit: Why do rogues always feel the need to rope????? oh right because they play a milion fucking cards a turn.
to be fair, there are only 6 secrets in standard and mages get two shots at it. it's FAR more likely they get ice barrier than missing it.
I know, it just annoys me lol To be fair half the current meta's problem has to do with a very good limited card pool.
Spell mages always having ice barrier from ring toss, always having the perfect devolving missiles, 283012938912 removal which they just so happen to draw into every single time. Getting overstatted crap from apexis blast. Just so tired of this deck. Give me paladin all day, atleast it doesn´t feel like they rng clownfiesta you while drawing and playing 89018293210 cards a turn.
Edit: Why do rogues always feel the need to rope????? oh right because they play a milion fucking cards a turn.
Board state is thus: Opponent (of course it's paladin, is there any other class?) has two big Kazakus golems and a 3/4. I have a Kazakus and a big Kazakus golem with lifesteal. Opponent has had Steed secret up for most of the game; I've been very patiently playing around it and it's worked out well so far. The only other secret played this game has been an Oh My Yogg! Last turn, my opponent played a Secret. To play around Oh My Yogg! (because of course I have to play around a second copy), I target my big lifesteal with Psyche Split (What's the worst that can happen? I think). Well, the second Oh My Yogg! turns Psyche Split into Malevolent Strike, which (you guessed it) targets my big lifesteal instead of any of the other minions on board.
Related: Can anyone confirm whether Oh My Yogg! picks new targets for spells? I swear I've played other targeting spells that had their targets change post-Yogg (and often to my detriment).
It is indeed supposed to be random. never seen it fuck my opponent over for a change thoug
OTK DH is far from broken lol. Here are my issues with Mindrender Illucia.
It feels unbelievably crap to play against, just planning a game carefuly and seeing your opponent throw the cards out sucks. Its effectively the same effect as Tickatus, but better as you can reap the benefits from it and your opponent loses cards from their hand.
The second reason is that it is essentially a hate card against an archetype that is supposed to be strong against Control, combo decks. That is also the reason that Control Priest can never be strong while this card is in the meta. As then it would be able to beat all other archetypes.
Third reason, and this is personal. It embodies everything I dislike about last years priest. All it did was discover and steal cards. Which is so unfun for me to play against.
That being said, if Illucia is nerfed, OTK DH needs to get hit too
Glad to see more representation! I personally really appreciated Jia's bit aswell. Representation matters because it allows more people to have a rolemodel who is like them, which in turn gets more people to play the game, and want to compete in it. It helps normalize that games are for everyone. And will hopefuly help stop some of the toxicity. But more importantly is speaking up when people are spreading their vile in various chats. Also good on Kripp and Regis for giving up their spots. At the end of the day it is money for them, so I can imagine it being hard for everyone to give up their place.
I do want to say I appreciate the community here that flux and everyone really helped create, these are, sadly, controversial topics and I have noticed that most people approach it in a very good way.
Last but not least. This apparantly needs to be said: Freedom of Speech, protects you against the government, not from consquences that private organisations or people impose on you.
Love losing against all the mage cards Rogue gets to play
Which smoothbrain dev thought Oh my Yogg was a good idea...
I just want to mention, a lot of people struggle to see it when a control card is overpowered. This was a turn 3 board clear most of the time. it absolutely deserves a nerf.
Spring water is a broken card only in a world were No Minion Mage is playable. A deck that is only viable because of Incanters Flow. So I 100% with YourPrivatenightmares statement that this is an incredibly shortsighted nerf. It completely misses the point of what actually is a problem.
Alright time for my shitty review of the nerfs and buffs.
Crabrider this is nerfed in a way I did not expect it. I kind of like it though. It loses its burst potential but keeps it low cost and high health.
[Hearthstone Card (Refreshing Springwater) Not Found] Why they didn't nerf Incanter's Flow is beyond me. But hey, I have two golden copies of this card. This was a very good draw card in a class that has very good draw already. All it does it makes Spell Mage more inconsistent.
Mankrik Fair
First Day of School this card effectively took the role of a one drop in the time that Paladin sorely lacked 1 drops. Now they have 1 drops I don't think this nerf is as effective as it would have been. But we shall see.
Hysteria I did not expect them to nerf this card. Now don't get me wrong. This card is the single best removal card in the game. It is so efficient and most of the time it just clears your opponents board. It is a broken card at 3 and you won't be able to convice me otherwise.
Now onto the buffs in general they seem to be small changes here and there.
Razorboar Not a very big change, but atleast now it will be able to trade better with 1 more attack.
Unbound Elemental , Tidal Surge and Lilypad Lurker are all good buffs that are not going to matter in the slightest. With that I mean in a vacuum it is a good thing, Unbound Elemental Should have been at 3/4 to begin with, and it might see play in an overload centric deck now, but I wouldn't hold my breath. Tidal Surge should have never been 4 mana. In what world is it reasonable that you pay 2 mana more for 1 more damage than Penance and Drain Life [Hearthstone Card (.Lilypad Lurker) Not Found] good card without useful synergy becomes a better card without useful synergy. What Shaman is lacking sorely is card draw. These are all good buffs in a vacuum, but not what Shaman needs.
Fiendish Circle I guess a 3 mana 4/4 isn't to bad.
Deck of Chaos This card will still be an unplayable meme.
Dark Inquisitor Xanesh This is how the card should have been from the start it feels shit being punished for corrupting your cards.
Whirling Combatant , Shieldmaiden both buffs that seems to make control Warrior stronger They are okay I guess?
N'Zoth, God of the Deep I would love for this card to be playable I don't think the problem is cost, but moreso the lack of synergies you get in your deck with play a ton of different tribes.
I don't know if its completely dead, but its a lot weaker now
Thats not a good reason to not simply tell us which of the 10 cards will get buffed and which of the 5 cards will be nerfed.
Ah yes, the complete incel deck thats Odd Warrior, proofing that a control deck can be as easy as pressing the HP button!
`isn´t Iksar always part of the thumbnail... oh.. its cursed, thanks
Buffing multiple control decks is a waste of time. Its incredibly hard in this game for multiple control decks to exist at the same time as one will always out value another and push it out of the meta
I love mage, its my favourite class but that card just tilts me so fucking hard.
I know, it just annoys me lol To be fair half the current meta's problem has to do with a very good limited card pool.
Spell mages always having ice barrier from ring toss, always having the perfect devolving missiles, 283012938912 removal which they just so happen to draw into every single time. Getting overstatted crap from apexis blast. Just so tired of this deck. Give me paladin all day, atleast it doesn´t feel like they rng clownfiesta you while drawing and playing 89018293210 cards a turn.
Edit: Why do rogues always feel the need to rope????? oh right because they play a milion fucking cards a turn.
Mages always so skillfuly topdeck devoling missiles.
It is indeed supposed to be random. never seen it fuck my opponent over for a change thoug
OTK DH is far from broken lol. Here are my issues with Mindrender Illucia.
It feels unbelievably crap to play against, just planning a game carefuly and seeing your opponent throw the cards out sucks. Its effectively the same effect as Tickatus, but better as you can reap the benefits from it and your opponent loses cards from their hand.
The second reason is that it is essentially a hate card against an archetype that is supposed to be strong against Control, combo decks. That is also the reason that Control Priest can never be strong while this card is in the meta. As then it would be able to beat all other archetypes.
Third reason, and this is personal. It embodies everything I dislike about last years priest. All it did was discover and steal cards. Which is so unfun for me to play against.
That being said, if Illucia is nerfed, OTK DH needs to get hit too
Love watching rogues takes their entire fucking turn to play their smooth brain million cards and rope
100% agreed, its very strong against Warrior, Hunter and Paladin
Glad to see more representation! I personally really appreciated Jia's bit aswell. Representation matters because it allows more people to have a rolemodel who is like them, which in turn gets more people to play the game, and want to compete in it. It helps normalize that games are for everyone. And will hopefuly help stop some of the toxicity. But more importantly is speaking up when people are spreading their vile in various chats. Also good on Kripp and Regis for giving up their spots. At the end of the day it is money for them, so I can imagine it being hard for everyone to give up their place.
I do want to say I appreciate the community here that flux and everyone really helped create, these are, sadly, controversial topics and I have noticed that most people approach it in a very good way.
Last but not least. This apparantly needs to be said: Freedom of Speech, protects you against the government, not from consquences that private organisations or people impose on you.
Roflstomped my way to legend from rank 4 to legend with Clown Druid today, 24-4. Smashing multiple paladins and mages. That felt so good.