Thank you KANSAS and Demonxz95 for the feedback; I'll hold on a while longer and see if any more comments come through before I make changes.
Here's some more feedback for those that have posted since...
MrRhapsody
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All of your cards are party-themed which is great. Wine & Cork shot is functional for priest, although I don't quite get the flavour. Arena Cheerleader'll get a party started I'm sure, but the effect is quite bland unfortunately. Shaked Soda is a good secret, just a few points. The name should be Shaken Soda, as it's the correct past participle of 'shake' (shaked isn't a word). The effect text should read "Secret: When your opponent casts a spell, deal 6 damage randomly split among all enemies". It's a little wordier and might bring you over the 4-line limit, but it would be in line with standard Hearthstone text formatting. Of the three, I personally prefer Shaken Soda: I like the flavour and it works well as a secret against aggro decks.
KANSAS
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Your latest iteration of Trick Gift is great! Round of applause for managing to get the effect into 4 lines of text, that would have taken me an age!
Demonxz95
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Firework Specialist is certainly well-balanced, perhaps even too restricted. I don't think it needs the "If you control a mech…" condition, but I see where you're coming from with it. Explosive Piñata has Depth Charge vibes. I like it, and the art is fantastic. It's cool that it's Neutral so that all classes can toy around and try make it work. I see Priest/Hunter players definitely trying to slot it into their decks.
Maybe I'm pandering to the masses a little with this one...
What do you all think? Here's some feedback as well...
Menacing Bagel
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Reveler Reno isn't a bad card, although Firework Fanatic is far more party themed, with an extra dash of rng. I'd go with that one!
linkblade91
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A very fun card indeed, and functional too. P.S: I love the art.
KANSAS
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Trick Gift is a little wordy, though I do like the flavour. If anything I think it'd be more fun/party-themed if it was never silenced. Feasting Troll on the other hand is a solid, over-statted, functional card, especially for the arena. I'm torn between both, honestly.
Alfi
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This minion would need to have a Battlecry in order for this to work. It's got great stats for a (4)-cost minion, although giving your opponent two boardclears is a pretty big downside. Also, BDay is very offputting. I understand it's probably because of the text constraint, but perhaps you could come up with another name?
anchorm4n
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Love the flavour! I think the effect is great, and the stats are fine. If anything, this'd be alright as a (3)-mana 2/2.
Wailor
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Suprise Party! is a fun card, although I don't get the 'full heal' aspect of the flavour (probably just me though). Happy Hour is also great, and I like that it affects both players which could force some interesting strategy against certain decks. Wedding Officer, whilst interesting, doesn't strike me as 'party' themed, more 'ceremony' themed. As they stand, I'd pick Happy Hour.
Untapped Potential has single-handedly made me fearful of playing against Druids.
For whatever reason (*cough* my own incompetence *cough*) I can never, ever beat this form of Quest Druid. I think I've faced it about 20 times now with a range of different decks and have only won once with a Highlander Hunter. When I see Untapped Potential on turn one, especially followed by a coin, it makes my blood boil. Hidden Oasis thwarts every chance I have at lethal. A well-timed Emerald Explorer, perhaps already buffed by Embiggen or which discovers Ysera, Unleashed ruins my day.
But worst of all... is Oasis Surger. This card, on curve, fully powered by Untapped Potential, thwarts my lethal, ruins my day, and gives me nightmares. I completely, utterly--and wholly irrationally--hate it.
Side Note: Have I mentioned that I hate Oasis Surger? Because I really, really do.
A minion who helps setting traps is Professor Putricide but I don't see who his sibling might be or where a groom comes in. In a wider way of thinking about traps, Mok'Nathal Lion could be meant, possible brothers being Savannah Highmane and King of Beasts. Since the riddle indicates the card is rarely used and it fits the "groom" part better, I'll go with King of Beasts.
(Side note: maybe we're overthinking it and the groom is Stablemaster. Who could be her brother?)
Thanks for the feedback everyone! I've received mixed reviews, but I'm going to stick with my card as I find there's some beauty in it's simplicity, even if it doesn't rock the boat all that much.
There were two comments concerning the power level I'll address: Whilst it's true that no one wants to pay (6) for a single 2/2 body, the cost of the spell factors in the existence of Goru the Mightree and the fact that Druids can ramp quite easily. That said, Treant decks aren't exactly top-tier, and this card could be a useful tool in giving the deck some more consistency, so I'll reduce the mana-cost to (3).
Finally, a comment concerning the art as well. Some liked, some didn't. I wanted: a) an image of a Druid midway through a treantsformation (please, don't hurt me) and, b) something that would be Witchwood appropriate. This was the best I could find, even after spending an extra hour this morning scouring the internet. I have however changed the art and name of the Hero Power to be a bit more suitable.
I'll probably submit later in the day. If anyone has any other feedback or noticed that I've missed something obvious, please fire away! My own feedback for the un-submitted is below...
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Demonxz95: I like the card, it's creative, though I do think it could cost a mana or two more. Nice job!
linkblade91: First off, great competition idea. As for your cards, To the Arena! could be a lot of fun, though I can also see the opposite since you and your opponent might miss out on a lot of useful Battlecries. I don't think it needs fixing since it seems to be more about flavour than anything, and for that alone it has my vote. The other two are both good, but nowhere near as interesting as your main choice :)
inconspicuosaurus: The card isn't bad, but very swing-y. The right Adapt at the right time could mean game over for an opponent, and the wrong one would be very frustrating for you, the player. Also feels like it should be a Hunter card.
menacingbagel: There are many formatting and grammatical errors with this card and it's hero powers. I'd suggest you look at a few examples of other's cards and/or actual Hearthstone cards for an idea of what to do. Ignoring those, you stood by your words. Balance screwed indeed.
KANSAS: Old-Fashioned Blacksmith is a good card, I'm just unsure as to whether it's an aura or you forgot to include the Battlecry?
Tox: The card is a little complicated, but does make sense. I can see it fitting into a casino mage for sure.
shaveyou: Interesting card, although I can't see it being any better than most Warlock board clears. I do like that it can synergise with self-damage cards however, an archetype which I have a soft spot for, so I'd personally score this card well.
meisterz39: For the hero power, Life Tap just says '… take 2 damage', so you needn't specify your hero. As for the card, don't quite understand it. Does the hero power swap back if you couldn't fully heal to more than 15 Health, or does it activate later, once you do go below 15 Health?
Conduit: More Silence Priest, yes please! I like how elegant it is and that it pushes an underused archetype. Good job!
DescentOfDragonsOP: This card is too stronk. The hero power should cost more (3, probably). There should also be a full stop between the card text and Overload, and Hero Power doesn't need a semi-colon after it.
anchorm4n: Either this card should cost more, have a drawback, or needs some way to be stopped. It's a flavourful and fun card, but the ability to copy your opponent's spells with zero drawback would be frustrating as heck to play against.
DestroyerR: Really cool card! Not much to critique, other than that 'Hero' in the text of 'After your Hero…' doesn't need to be capitalised ;)
CapnMunch: I'm not really feeling this card. Aside from a few formatting errors - and the fact that the card doesn't say what the hero power is - I don't see why it's neutral when discard is almost exclusively a Warlock trait. Also, 7/14 with an effect like that is brutal - the stats need to be reduced.
bigcums: Unfortunately neither of these cards strikes me as good. I want to like Iron Wrath, but the effect is too wordy and the condition makes little sense. The Mage card provides far too much tempo. With small spells, it would fill the board and with big spells it would provide a big body. Even in this meta I find that OP.
TheHoax91: How much would A'dal's hero power cost? It's possibly OP, certainly infuriating to play against. Symbiosis is interesting. I like the card, but I'm not sure about forcing both players into it. If it only lasted a few turns and affected just you I think it'd be great.
Good luck to everyone who submitted, and an extra shot of lock to whoever submitted Impflicting Pain. That's a far more interesting, less swing-y card than my Impvasion!
i did not despair after my major fuck-up last week. So far I have had these ideas.
Salvation is helping to etablish the Paladin as the merciful guy who can either give his enemies a second chance to turn to the good or save his own people. It is simple but beautiful.
Gogmadar is the saving grace for discard decks. You discarded your important win condition? No problem, he gets it back for you. He can unleash all the cardy that never got a chance to be played... if the game is going for the longer run. Currently discard is only viable as aggro since you do not really want to lose important cards as a control player but Gogmadar enables this kind of a longer term discard-playstyle.
I will give some Feedback to the other people in this thread later.
Unfortunately Feuerrabe, the prompt this week is to design cards that interact with your opponent's deck. They are allowed to affect both decks, but not yours alone; both of your cards would need to be reworked.
Hey all! Here's my idea for this week, playing on the Scheme mechanic to disrupt your opponent:
What do you think? My main concern is the cost--should it be more expensive since you could potentially shuffle upwards of 5 Imps into the deck?
Aaand here's my feedback for those that haven't submitted.
@Conduit
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I don't think the card is overpowered. It's a functional card, although what minions might you want to give your opponent later in the game? Unfortunately it doesn't have much use beyond very niche decks, especially as a Rogue card.
@linkblade91
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Of the three, Toxic Longtongue is my favourite. It's packed full of flavour and gives Druid some powerful, albeit slightly random, single-target removal. I'd rate this 5 stars as it is now!
@Demonxz95
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I think this card is very OP. In my experience, I received 3-5 Bombs against an average Bomb Warrior in the past and this would make it 6-10 (in other words, 15-25 potential damage becomes a likely 30-50 damage…). Warrior can also survive long enough to draw this card, so as it is I'd vote it down just for breaking the game.
@shaveyou
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Having your opponent randomly discard is un-interactive and rage-inducing, so I much prefer Incitus, Living Flame. I think the Attack should be reduced to 7 or the cost raised to (8), but otherwise it's a solid minion.
@Wailor
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I'm not too sure about any of the three new cards you presented. Librarian Donathan is probably the better of the three, but I think it should order both decks; ordering just your opponent's is too OP. The All-Seeing Raven is a fine card, but Druid shouldn't have access to 'see your opponent's cards' effects, that's a position thematically reserved for Priest and, to a degree, Rogue. Finally, Despair is… weird. In order for the secret to work you need to set yourself up with a weak board to maximise disruption, but that makes you very vulnerable because your opponent is not prevented from attacking or dealing damage. I'm not sure how I'd improve it either.
@Xarkkal
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Xavius ain't a bad card, glad it disrupts both you and your opponent. Good stats, creative, and flavourful, nice job!
@thepowrofcheese
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Interesting… I can't tell if this is a disruptive card, or actually beneficial… Regardless, I like it, probably because it can be played however you like. Also, this would screw over any unfortunate Shirvallah,+Holy Wrath combo decks XD
@Hordaki
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I'm not sold that Demon Hunter should be able to look at your opponent's stuff. Priest, sure. Rogue, okay. DH, meh. I know this plays on Sightless Watcher, but the spirit of that card is improving DH's draw since that's what DH does, rather than the spirit being looking at cards, that's not what DH does. As a result, I'm not the biggest fan of this card.
@KANSAS
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A good card overall, can't really fault it. Removal as Warlock does best!
@DestroyerR
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Slumber Lord is far too OP. There's disruption and then there's destruction. Reducing the number of cards would be fine, but I think KANSAS already created a pretty good single-target removal that shuffles to the bottom. Anaxxis is a meme, nuff said. Silmother Siqara has some very niche uses, but could be used well by a good player, and as such is the better of the three for me. I'm already thinking up some sort of Felhound, Rushdown deck with her in it for Rogue.
@grumpymonk
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If I look at this card as a very specific tech card for a very specific meta (a la Skulking Geist), then it's actually a very good card. Thumbs up from me!
@Neoguli
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It's an okay finisher card. Most games this'd be a vanilla 6/6, which isn't bad at all, but it's so niche as to almost be unplayable. I'd rethink the condition perhaps. I'm also not sure if this is eligible since the card seems to have to directly interact with your opponent's deck, whereas this one does so indirectly.
@TheHoax91
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I think this card is far too strong as it stands. Paladin Secrets aren't going to cut it in most decks, and most decks use at least some Neutral cards as an integral part of their play-style. Not only does this disrupt draw, but it makes most decks unplayable, which simply isn't fun.
@Thez
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Aside from Discover not being a Classic mechanic, this card just seems too strong. Gnomeferatu was un-interactive enough for removing the top card, but the ability to choose which card you remove from the opponent's deck seems so unfair. Placing the minion on the bottom of the deck would be much better IMO.
@meisterz39
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I don't think the ability to constantly steal cards is healthy for the game; I'd go back to the drawing board with this one.
@dembro
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Whilst Horrific Vision isn't bad per se, it doesn't directly interact with your opponent's deck and I think it'd be disqualified. Nether Ritualist just isn't fun. This type of card is woefully un-interactive. Shuffling into your opponent's deck is one thing, destroying their deck is another, especially when it doesn't also hurt you. Maybe if it shuffled into both decks?
@anchorm4n
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I agree with KANSAS that the concept is good, but currently too weak. The condition isn't justified for Lifesteal and Rush. I'm not sure quite how to improve it (sorry :/), but it's an idea that's still worth toying around with. I'm sure you'll come up with something good!
Good luck to all! Voting has been made very difficult by such a strong pool of cards.
P.S. @DestroyerR: I lovedAlternateReality, shame it didn't make it to the finals, though I'm sure you'll come up with something just as inspired next week!
I agree, most of the Rogue secrets don't appeal to me either. My favorites are Counter Shot, Saving Grace and Maternal Instinct in that order, they all got 5 stars from me.
I'm not sure what to do about the "go dormant for 2 turns" issue. I will definitely give them all the same rating since I don't know if one of them knew of the others and I don't see any major differences between them (no spelling mistakes, art looks good on all of them, ...). I would initially have given 4 stars, maybe even 5, but that doesn't feel right anymore with three identical entries. I reduced my votes to 3 stars for the moment but I will think some more about it till the deadline tonight. It's a hard decision for me. Is someone willing to discuss how they are rating these cards and why?
I think I'll go down a similar route
The initial "Go Dormant for 2 turns" card I saw was rated 5 stars by me (I'm pretty sure it was Sleep Dart). I've left my original rating for that, solely because I thought it was, overall, a well executed card: good art, good flavour, good effect, fits nicely into Rogue, uses a new mechanic well, nuff said. Like you, I don't feel right about giving ALL the other entries a full 5 stars for a few reasons:
a) some of them lack the flavour/theme of Sleep Dart, and aren't refined in their wording/editing
b) although not everyone uses the discussion thread to check first, I don't think anyone should just assume their idea is completely original, and should check by at least going through the submissions, even if they don't vote
I've given the other "Go Dormant" cards between 1-3 stars depending on how much the capture the flavour of Rogue, although in future I probably won't vote on cards that have the same effect, so as to be more fair to the first submission.
Sorry for the word-wall, but hopefully you understand my reasoning!
Thank you KANSAS and Demonxz95 for the feedback; I'll hold on a while longer and see if any more comments come through before I make changes.
Here's some more feedback for those that have posted since...
MrRhapsody
KANSAS
Demonxz95
Maybe I'm pandering to the masses a little with this one...
What do you all think? Here's some feedback as well...
Menacing Bagel
linkblade91
KANSAS
Alfi
anchorm4n
Wailor
Good luck to all the finalists, what a creative week! Stormshape stands out for me as a particularly interesting concept.
On another note, I'm really glad Talon King Ikiss made it; I love anything C'Thun related.
Untapped Potential has single-handedly made me fearful of playing against Druids.
For whatever reason (*cough* my own incompetence *cough*) I can never, ever beat this form of Quest Druid. I think I've faced it about 20 times now with a range of different decks and have only won once with a Highlander Hunter. When I see Untapped Potential on turn one, especially followed by a coin, it makes my blood boil. Hidden Oasis thwarts every chance I have at lethal. A well-timed Emerald Explorer, perhaps already buffed by Embiggen or which discovers Ysera, Unleashed ruins my day.
But worst of all... is Oasis Surger. This card, on curve, fully powered by Untapped Potential, thwarts my lethal, ruins my day, and gives me nightmares. I completely, utterly--and wholly irrationally--hate it.
Side Note: Have I mentioned that I hate Oasis Surger? Because I really, really do.
Another hint for everybody:
1. Think about other ways key words in the riddle could be used, or alternative meanings they have.
It isn't King of Beasts I'm afraid
Thanks for the clarification on hints!
Unfortunately it's not Ram Wrangler, nor is it Dinotamer Brann.
I'm not sure about the etiquette on hint-giving, but as it's been a while I'll leave you with some additional info:
1. A specific word in the riddle gives away the class this card belongs to.
2. This card's brother is their antonym.
Interesting guess, but neither of the above is true.
Thanks for the feedback everyone! I've received mixed reviews, but I'm going to stick with my card as I find there's some beauty in it's simplicity, even if it doesn't rock the boat all that much.
There were two comments concerning the power level I'll address: Whilst it's true that no one wants to pay (6) for a single 2/2 body, the cost of the spell factors in the existence of Goru the Mightree and the fact that Druids can ramp quite easily. That said, Treant decks aren't exactly top-tier, and this card could be a useful tool in giving the deck some more consistency, so I'll reduce the mana-cost to (3).
Finally, a comment concerning the art as well. Some liked, some didn't. I wanted: a) an image of a Druid midway through a treantsformation (please, don't hurt me) and, b) something that would be Witchwood appropriate. This was the best I could find, even after spending an extra hour this morning scouring the internet. I have however changed the art and name of the Hero Power to be a bit more suitable.
I'll probably submit later in the day. If anyone has any other feedback or noticed that I've missed something obvious, please fire away! My own feedback for the un-submitted is below...
Demonxz95: I like the card, it's creative, though I do think it could cost a mana or two more. Nice job!
linkblade91: First off, great competition idea. As for your cards, To the Arena! could be a lot of fun, though I can also see the opposite since you and your opponent might miss out on a lot of useful Battlecries. I don't think it needs fixing since it seems to be more about flavour than anything, and for that alone it has my vote. The other two are both good, but nowhere near as interesting as your main choice :)
inconspicuosaurus: The card isn't bad, but very swing-y. The right Adapt at the right time could mean game over for an opponent, and the wrong one would be very frustrating for you, the player. Also feels like it should be a Hunter card.
menacingbagel: There are many formatting and grammatical errors with this card and it's hero powers. I'd suggest you look at a few examples of other's cards and/or actual Hearthstone cards for an idea of what to do. Ignoring those, you stood by your words. Balance screwed indeed.
KANSAS: Old-Fashioned Blacksmith is a good card, I'm just unsure as to whether it's an aura or you forgot to include the Battlecry?
Tox: The card is a little complicated, but does make sense. I can see it fitting into a casino mage for sure.
shaveyou: Interesting card, although I can't see it being any better than most Warlock board clears. I do like that it can synergise with self-damage cards however, an archetype which I have a soft spot for, so I'd personally score this card well.
meisterz39: For the hero power, Life Tap just says '… take 2 damage', so you needn't specify your hero. As for the card, don't quite understand it. Does the hero power swap back if you couldn't fully heal to more than 15 Health, or does it activate later, once you do go below 15 Health?
Conduit: More Silence Priest, yes please! I like how elegant it is and that it pushes an underused archetype. Good job!
DescentOfDragonsOP: This card is too stronk. The hero power should cost more (3, probably). There should also be a full stop between the card text and Overload, and Hero Power doesn't need a semi-colon after it.
anchorm4n: Either this card should cost more, have a drawback, or needs some way to be stopped. It's a flavourful and fun card, but the ability to copy your opponent's spells with zero drawback would be frustrating as heck to play against.
DestroyerR: Really cool card! Not much to critique, other than that 'Hero' in the text of 'After your Hero…' doesn't need to be capitalised ;)
CapnMunch: I'm not really feeling this card. Aside from a few formatting errors - and the fact that the card doesn't say what the hero power is - I don't see why it's neutral when discard is almost exclusively a Warlock trait. Also, 7/14 with an effect like that is brutal - the stats need to be reduced.
bigcums: Unfortunately neither of these cards strikes me as good. I want to like Iron Wrath, but the effect is too wordy and the condition makes little sense. The Mage card provides far too much tempo. With small spells, it would fill the board and with big spells it would provide a big body. Even in this meta I find that OP.
TheHoax91: How much would A'dal's hero power cost? It's possibly OP, certainly infuriating to play against. Symbiosis is interesting. I like the card, but I'm not sure about forcing both players into it. If it only lasted a few turns and affected just you I think it'd be great.
None of the above I'm afraid. To clarify: there is no lore involved in this card. They don't have an in-game brother in WoW.
Just posting my idea up before I head off to sleep, will hammer out some feedback tomorrow. Good luck creating everybody!
I realise that this is horribly uncreative, but could be functional.
Awesome! I've been wanting to join in this thread for a while, really chuffed I managed to solve that one :)
Now for my riddle. Enjoy!
It's a shame there's no room
In most decks for a groom
My brother, perhaps
Could have helped set some traps?
Oh no, wait... He's relapsed
If I've unscrambled this correctly, it reads 'Flippers of the Old Cods', which references the flavour text of...
Bloodhoof Brave?
I may have slightly, maybe, only just forgotten about the comp this week and managed to submit 9 minutes before closing. Phew!
Good luck to everyone who submitted, I've already seen quite a few great entries just skimming through them :)
Good luck to everyone who submitted, and an extra shot of lock to whoever submitted Impflicting Pain. That's a far more interesting, less swing-y card than my Impvasion!
Unfortunately Feuerrabe, the prompt this week is to design cards that interact with your opponent's deck. They are allowed to affect both decks, but not yours alone; both of your cards would need to be reworked.
Hey all! Here's my idea for this week, playing on the Scheme mechanic to disrupt your opponent:
What do you think? My main concern is the cost--should it be more expensive since you could potentially shuffle upwards of 5 Imps into the deck?
Aaand here's my feedback for those that haven't submitted.
@Conduit
@linkblade91
@Demonxz95
@shaveyou
@Wailor
@Xarkkal
@thepowrofcheese
@Hordaki
@KANSAS
@DestroyerR
@grumpymonk
@Neoguli
@TheHoax91
@Thez
@meisterz39
@dembro
@anchorm4n
Good luck to all! Voting has been made very difficult by such a strong pool of cards.
P.S. @DestroyerR: I loved Alternate Reality, shame it didn't make it to the finals, though I'm sure you'll come up with something just as inspired next week!
I think I'll go down a similar route
The initial "Go Dormant for 2 turns" card I saw was rated 5 stars by me (I'm pretty sure it was Sleep Dart). I've left my original rating for that, solely because I thought it was, overall, a well executed card: good art, good flavour, good effect, fits nicely into Rogue, uses a new mechanic well, nuff said. Like you, I don't feel right about giving ALL the other entries a full 5 stars for a few reasons:
a) some of them lack the flavour/theme of Sleep Dart, and aren't refined in their wording/editing
b) although not everyone uses the discussion thread to check first, I don't think anyone should just assume their idea is completely original, and should check by at least going through the submissions, even if they don't vote
I've given the other "Go Dormant" cards between 1-3 stars depending on how much the capture the flavour of Rogue, although in future I probably won't vote on cards that have the same effect, so as to be more fair to the first submission.
Sorry for the word-wall, but hopefully you understand my reasoning!
P.S: Glad you liked Maternal Instinct ;)