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    460 464 Posts Joined 03/04/2020
    Posted 3 years, 9 months ago

    I can't really imagine a deck in which you are willing to run this as a combo board clear when mage and shaman have access  to so many great single card control tools already. The single sided nature of the board clear is less relevant when you can't use it to bypass taunt minions.

    If you want to do something strong with this, shaman is probably to class to go for, especially with lightning bloom being printed. The problem is that any combo that generates a lot of spell damage in one turn could also win by just playing burn spells.

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    Posted 3 years, 9 months ago

    A pretty nice card,  heals for 1 more than apfelbaum and costs 1 less.

    Not sure where this goes, but the card is well-costed enough that it can probably go into a good number of slower druid/shaman decks.

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    Posted 3 years, 9 months ago

    Yes, unless warlocks get a healing 1 mana spell.

    I think that this combo makes more sense in wild with brann, where you only need one darkglare and half as many spells, though.

    In reply to Pen Flinger OTK
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    Posted 3 years, 9 months ago

    You fire pen flingers at yourself when your mana is low, and the darkglares refresh your mana.

    In reply to Pen Flinger OTK
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    Posted 3 years, 9 months ago

    It's a neutral twilight's call.

    The only decks that currently consider twilight's call are mecha'thun/toggwaggle decks, but maybe other classes need this effect too?

    This could be strong in midrange deathrattle hunter where you often have very high tempo deathrattles to capitalise on nine lives.

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    Posted 3 years, 9 months ago

    I have no idea how to evaluate this, but I'm guessing that it goes into combo decks and not much else.

    Also, as mentioned earlier, twig of the world tree + this = 5 mana for 10 mana. Probably not needed when aviana + kun exists, but something to think about, especially given that this can also be used in combo druid decks to filter for pieces.

     

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    Posted 3 years, 9 months ago

    1 mana super soularium, and this one isn't legendary.

    Looking forward to trying this in odd rogue.

    This might be useful in some sort of combo, but I can't think of what right now.

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    Posted 3 years, 9 months ago

    Half of a spellkin. Probably not great going of how much play spellkin sees.

    Unlikely to go anywhere as far as I see it.

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    Posted 3 years, 9 months ago

    Definitely good somewhere. Tutors toggwaggle and murozond to the top of your deck in togg priest, and probably helps other decks as well.

    Almost certainly a combo-only card. I don't think that this makes a lot of sense anywhere else, unless you decide to use it as a tutor for a finisher in an aggro deck?

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    Posted 3 years, 9 months ago

    An interesting way to design a silence minion, but unless a deck needs more consume magics, then this probably struggles to see play.

    Not expecting to see this in odd DH any time soon.

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    Posted 3 years, 9 months ago

    Another even-costed card for demon hunter, and hand disruption seems to be a theme for them this expansion.

    Because the card is shuffled back, not discarded, this can't really do anything to stop combos and won't be incredibly important for a slower deck.

    In a faster deck, I think loatheb is nearly always a better pick for a disruption card, especially as it is odd, not even.

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    Posted 3 years, 9 months ago

    An interesting little card. Definitely enables something, but remember that this does not return to hand if it is killed by the spell you cast.

    Can probably fit into raza priest, but the ability to play enough cards per turn for lethal isn't a problem for raza priest, what that deck needs is a better draw suite to consistently draw into raza + shadowreaper.

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    Posted 3 years, 9 months ago

    Would be better than greenskin were it not for pirate synergies. Still, this is likely to make it into midrange pirate warrior just because of the power of combining upgrade with a rush minion. The only downside is that you don't get the buff if your opponent has no minions.

    Probably sees play in warrior, but I don't think that any rogue deck really uses this other than slower kingsbane decks, which aren't great by virtue of being slow rogue decks.

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    Posted 3 years, 9 months ago

    A big swing card for renolock, but unlike n'zoth and bloodreaver, this one puts the cards into play instead of making copies. I think that if renolock needed more swing turns, they'd run kanrethad over this.

    As a 9 mana card, this definitely won't go anywhere else, unless a specific combo needs to pull two demons into play?

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    Posted 3 years, 9 months ago

    Not great, even though the statline is fine for 3 mana.

    Copying a rush minion is, at best, going be a one sided board clear for two cards and 7 - 8 mana. There isn`t a warrior deck that needs that kind of effect right now, but if there is, it would probably be the midrange pirate warrior with greenskin, where this is an okay anti-aggro tool.

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    Posted 3 years, 9 months ago

    Could be used to copy big demons in renolock. Copying big demons is good, but expired merchant combos provide more power by copying the resurrection cards instead.

    Probably doesn't see play in odd DH just because the only really great target is battlefiend, unless more strong odd demons are printed.

    Maybe in discardlock, where most of the demons are quite strong.

    Looking forward to trying this out in renolock, but I'm not overly optimistic.

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    Posted 3 years, 9 months ago

    What a cool card. Really interesting way of disrupting your opponent, and replacing useless cards.

    As with all Demon Hunter cards, I have no idea what a competitive non-odd demon hunter looks like, and given that this card is quite aggressive and that I'm not sure it's enough to push demon hunters away from the odd package for aggro, I think this might see very little play.

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    Posted 3 years, 9 months ago

    The card's biggest weakness is that in a fast deck, this fills your board with 0-attack minions when it dies, even though they are bloodlust-able. That and this having an odd mana cost, locking it out of even shaman.

    Windshear Stormcaller exists, but any kind of combo with it could almost certainly be improved by just playing al'akir instead.

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    Posted 3 years, 9 months ago

    Pretty interesting effect, but has the problem of needing a spell that costs 3 or more to really shine, which precludes this from a lot of more aggressive decks.

    If Warrior or Paladin get a powerful aggro 3 mana spell, then this card will be great. Otherwise, this does not really find a place in any slower decks.

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    Posted 3 years, 9 months ago

    This card looks really good, but compared to flamewalker I'm not actually sure how pushed this is when it isn't being used in an OTK.

    It might not make it into quest mage, but this probably enables a good number of thaurissan-less OTKs with the right hand of cheap spells.

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