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    460 464 Posts Joined 03/04/2020
    Posted 3 years, 5 months ago

    I don't think that priests can afford to run a card that is this unreliable. It can win games, but no earlier than turn 6 and the effect is very unreliable.

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    460 464 Posts Joined 03/04/2020
    Posted 3 years, 5 months ago

    Not sure that demon hunters want this effect, but it's definitely strong if you can corrupt it. It's good, but doesn't really stand out to me.

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    460 464 Posts Joined 03/04/2020
    Posted 3 years, 5 months ago

    Very interesting. The way corrupt interacts with odd/even decks makes this unlikely for odd DH, but it definitely has potential.

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    460 464 Posts Joined 03/04/2020
    Posted 3 years, 5 months ago

    It's good, but I don't know if this is really viable without any other real support for running a lot of weapons. If you can consistently get this to trigger, this is definitely worth considering, but that isn't realistic with any existing deck.

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    460 464 Posts Joined 03/04/2020
    Posted 3 years, 5 months ago

    I just can't imagine wanting to spend 8 mana for this effect when so many powerful spells exist at similar costs for druid.

    I doubt this sees play in a format with so many other payoffs for ramping or spell discounting.

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    Posted 3 years, 5 months ago

    The effect is clearly powerful, but I doubt this will regularly summon much more than a two or three drop. Interesting, but I would compare this to Cat Trick, which is more reliable and in a class with better secret synergy. By comparison, this might be a fiddle to get into any decks.

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    460 464 Posts Joined 03/04/2020
    Posted 3 years, 5 months ago

    An interesting card, but not likely to see play. Most strong totem effects just use the fact that it's easy to get a lot of them into play using your hero power, and most totem decks only run a few cards that are totems. I would love for an effect like this to be good, but I don't think that this is it.

    As a side note, this seems like it could be balanced as one of the 'non-basic' totems the shaman hero power summons in duels.

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    460 464 Posts Joined 03/04/2020
    Posted 3 years, 5 months ago

    Now mage has access to a spells-in-deck only Renounce Darkness, I guess? Effects like this have never been competitive, and I can't see why this one would change that.

    I can't imagine any deck would want this, just by the fact that any spells that require synergy are useless, and you will probably have excessive amounts of removal with no threats.

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    460 464 Posts Joined 03/04/2020
    Posted 3 years, 5 months ago

    Fairly sure that this is almost okay in secret mage. I would compare this to [Hearthstone Card (Alu'neth) Not Found], which in comparison draws a lot more cards, but doesn't give you a body. If this draws 4-6 cards, I think that it might just be worth running.

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    460 464 Posts Joined 03/04/2020
    Posted 3 years, 5 months ago

    Very greedy. N'zoth into a board full of this will leave an opponent without silence or transform very stuck.

    A 5 mana taunt with a deathrattle that your opponent can play around is unlikely to make major waves in competitive, but this is a fun grindy card.

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    460 464 Posts Joined 03/04/2020
    Posted 3 years, 5 months ago

    This very clearly goes into a combo. The question is not is this card is good in general, but if whatever combo this enables is good. I'm guessing that, like most rogue combos, whatever this enables will be a fiddle, and not really competitive. Fun card, though.

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    460 464 Posts Joined 03/04/2020
    Posted 3 years, 5 months ago

    Quite pricy for what it gives you. Not sure this sees play in a world where slower hunter decks are so poor. Were there more ways for hunters to buff their weapons, this could be very powerful, but I can't really see this going anywhere.

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    460 464 Posts Joined 03/04/2020
    Posted 3 years, 5 months ago

    I think that in most cases this is a significantly worse Luna's Pocket Galaxy, but maybe warlock's better access to draw makes the effect more useful there? I've never really felt that cubelock/renolock needed their minions discounted, they tend to have voidcaller to get their demons into play and even Skull of the Man'ari is only run in some decks.

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    460 464 Posts Joined 03/04/2020
    Posted 3 years, 5 months ago

    Very easy card to slot into any deck that wants to shuffle cards in, but I'm not sure that many decks have too many effects that do that. Any decks that do will definitely give this consideration. Good in the right deck, bad anywhere else.

    On a side note, if you put this in a deck withBaku the Mooneater and Prince Malchezaar, does baku still work if this now costs 0? Not as though it matters, but it would be interesting to check.

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    460 464 Posts Joined 03/04/2020
    Posted 3 years, 5 months ago

    It's not cheap, and it's definitely a tempo loss on the turn you play it, but I think the effect is so strong in the long game that odd paladins will run this even though topdecking it will lose some games in an aggro race. Not sure that it can go into any other deck, but I don't think it needs to to be powerful.

    Looking forward to playing with this card.

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    460 464 Posts Joined 03/04/2020
    Posted 3 years, 5 months ago

    If a slower Demon Hunter deck that uses this to get extra copies of a combo piece + removal/taunt/etc., this could be good. The problem, as always, is that no such deck currently exists, but maybe this set will change that. Not likely to see play in odd DH, but hopeful to see this in another deck for DH.

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    Posted 3 years, 5 months ago

    Oddly, the demon type really hurts this card, polluting the resurrect pool and getting pulled from hand instead of big taunt demons and Mal'Ganis. If this effect was something warlocks really wanted, Demonwrath would be seeing play right now.

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    460 464 Posts Joined 03/04/2020
    Posted 3 years, 5 months ago

    This can't be run in odd DH, so this would have to take its changes at being run elsewhere, but there aren't that many other even cards that demon hunters really need, and the power of the upgraded hero power is enough that I think you aren't willing to give it up just to get a card that works best with upgraded hero power + twin slice.

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    460 464 Posts Joined 03/04/2020
    Posted 3 years, 5 months ago

    Shame that the wording is such that amalgam doesn't make this free.

    This card is very dependant on the power of the menagerie archetype, which I'm not confident will be pushed enough to make it a competitive deck.

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    460 464 Posts Joined 03/04/2020
    Posted 3 years, 5 months ago

    An interesting combo card, clearly for drawing many shuffled in cards, but maybe the ability to tutor up both copies of a card from your deck is good enough on its own.

    Not likely to see competitive play, but definitely worth experimenting with.

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