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    460 464 Posts Joined 03/04/2020
    Posted 3 years, 5 months ago

    Nor bad per se, but not really remarkable enough to see any constructed play.

    The fact that the tokens have taunt makes the card fairly unique in generating multiple taunt minions and dealing damage. Compare to Flanking Strike, which, despite being a strong card, does not see much play because hunter can't accommodate it in a competitive deck.

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    Posted 3 years, 5 months ago

    I think that this is mostly bad unless you need to trigger a massive number of death effects. 7 mana for at most 14 damage is not great.

    I doubt this goes anywhere competitive, but maybe this + Wrathscale Naga does something of note?

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    Posted 3 years, 5 months ago

    A very interesting card for something like big beast hunter.

    This can potentially land 24 damage in one turn if it pulls King Krush, then you play two Revenge of the Wilds.

    Not likely to slot into any competitive decks.

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    Posted 3 years, 5 months ago

    An interesting card, but I doubt it sees much play. Oblivitron works well with this, but a midrange mech-hunter probably wants mechs that are a little cheaper to take advantage of magnetic.

    At seven mana, this is too expensive to slot into any aggro deck.

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    Posted 3 years, 6 months ago

    As a general rule in hearthstone, multiplicative effects don't stack.

    z.B. Two Brann Bronzebeards or two Baron Rivendares

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    Posted 3 years, 6 months ago

    A pretty good AoE for demon hunters, but viability still depends on if slower demon hunter decks can be competitive, which they currently are not.

    In a slower deck this suffers from the problem of being very bad against anything but aggro.

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    Posted 3 years, 6 months ago

    First, I don't think that this is much good without combos related to giving your opponent a minion, just because only a fraction of decks will ever put up something worth stealing. Compared to Sylvanas, this card is really quite weak.

    Secondly, I am very happy to see a neutral treachery. I doubt that any deck that uses this card as a treachery will be good, but I can guarantee that they will be interesting to attempt.

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    Posted 3 years, 6 months ago

    I don't think that this sees play. the uncorrupted side is very poor, and the corrupted is not a long sight better.

    I will add the caveat that any viable support for corrupt will change that analysis.

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    Posted 3 years, 6 months ago

    Disregarding the reference, I don't think that this is really very good.

    The only time you'd play this is if there was an easy way to cheat it out, and most easy ways to cheat minions out can also be used to cheat out ways of dealing a lot of damage instead.

    10 mana is a lot to pay for a removal effect that can't get around taunt.

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    Posted 3 years, 6 months ago

    It's a little tricky to work in because of the nature of corrupt. It can be good, with I think that the requirement to play a 5+ cost card first will make it unlikely to see use unless Y'shaarj is not the only corrupt matters effect.

    The raw effect is not very good, and the corrupt effect is only just good enough. I think that this just doesn't make the cut.

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    Posted 3 years, 6 months ago

    A very strange card. It would make more sense if the eclipses were tokens for this, but as they aren't, so I don't see a reason to run this unless you need to generate a lot of them for some combo.

    I assume that solar eclipses don't stack, so I can't think what you would need more than two of them for.

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    Posted 3 years, 6 months ago

    Not really seeing how this can go into any existing priest deck. I think most control decks would rather have a deathrattle effect than strong stats on a taunt minion, even though this minion can be very large in the right circumstances.

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    Posted 3 years, 6 months ago

    If odd paladin takes off again, I think that this might see play as a second Muster for Battle. The problem arises in odd paladin that 5 (or 7 and 9) cost cards are needed to corrupt this, making it a lot more awkward to play.

    Non-odd paladin decks with a silver hand recruit theme tend not be very strong compared to odd paladin, and I don't think that this is enough to change that, especially when cards like Air Raid have failed to make a big impact in aggressive decks.

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    Posted 3 years, 6 months ago

    In a lot of combo decks that run many low cost cards and a few high cost cards, this is deceptively poor, because I assume that cards that cost the same are always not drawn, and they often run many cards at each cost.

    In value based druid decks, usually larger draw effects like Fungal Fortunes are preferred.

    Fun idea, but not sure it slots anywhere.

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    Posted 3 years, 6 months ago

    Fairly good card. Combo potential is probably more limited than it looks, but is definitely still there. Not sure that this slots into existing druid combo lists because druid has no shortage of free or negative-costing spells, and the other free 3 damage, Bogbeam has the advantage of always being free without needing to be coupled with a 2+ costing spell.

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    Posted 3 years, 6 months ago

    I'm fairly sure that this is very good.

    Copying very expensive spells will be a fiddle, but even copying an inexpensive spell is worthwhile. Can also act as bees 3-4 in 2k armour druid, as well as allowing for copying of any of that deck's draw and stall spells.

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    Posted 3 years, 6 months ago

    Depending on how good corrupt cards are, this could be either fine or great. We already know that both minions and spells have corrupt, so this card will probably be able to refill your hand with removal and minions for 0.

    The worry is that higher-cost corrupt cards will be very hard to get active, so most of the cards will probably be fairly cheap, so the mana discount will be minimal.

    If a class ends up with a super strong 9-mana corrupt card coupled with a very strong 10 mana card, this could be incredibly strong, but I doubt that that will happen.

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    Posted 3 years, 6 months ago

    Clearly less good than the original N'zoth, but maybe you can use this to specifically reanimate a set of combo pieces?

    In the right deck, this can still fulfill the same value finisher niche, but I'm not sure that the range of viable minions with types is as good as deathrattle minions.

    I imagine that there is probably a deck that wants this, combo or otherwise.

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    Posted 3 years, 6 months ago

    This Yogg is technically more likely to clear the board than regular yogg, but it's still too random to be used in a serious deck.

    One thing to note is that if you put this in an infinite shudderwock deck it is much less likely to break the shudderwock chain by discarding your hand or transforming your board.

    If you really want to waste someone's time (as well as yours), Violet Illusionist in play, target it with Darkspeaker, then get rod of roasting against 2k armour druid.

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    Posted 3 years, 6 months ago

    Any deck willing to have four mediocre cards shuffled into its deck will be rewarded with one very strong card. I think that this probably struggles to see play outside of a very slow deck, just because each of the pieces are so bad to draw against aggro.

    Compare to N'zoth in similar decks, your set-up cards are good anti aggro tools, and the payoff is very strong, but not game winning.
    With this card, your set-up cards are notably weaker, especially body and maw of C'thun, but the pay-off can just win the game.

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