I'm not really convinced. Like, you probably want to run this in Secret Hunter, but that means it has to compete with Eaglehorn Bow, one of the best Cards for that Archetype.
It would have better Chances of seeing Play with 3 Durability.
I don't know into what kind of Deck it could fit rn though. Maybe some aggressive Midrange Hunter? Or maybe it's gonna be another Addition to Highlander.
On Average, you should'nt have too much of a Problem to have this summon 2 Minions on T3. There's the new Secret, Open the Cages, and a Couple of others, that usually don't trigger that easily early on in the Game.
You could probably put this into any Hunter Deck that runs 2 different Secrets, have it perform just fine.
1 Khartut Defender alone already gives you a good Defense the Turn you play this. But outside of that, there's not many big Deathrattles in Standard atm that you would want to resurect. There's Darkmoon Tonk and maybe Plagued Protodrake and [Hearthstone Card (Oblvitron) Not Found].
But I could see this easily become very powerfull in later Expansions.
I think the point that AngryShuckie is making is about the PROBABILITY that a card shows up in the options, not whether it’s DISPLAYED more than once.
I know. And these two things correlate with each other.
What I'm trying to say is, that the Probability of a certain Card being offered to you is influenced by the Fact that it can't be displayed more than once. Like I mentioned before, Effects that dicover from your Deck treat the Cards in it as if they were unique.
If you play Stitched Tracker with 15 Raptors and 3 other Minions in your Deck, it doesn't look at it and think:
„There's 1 Loothoarder, 1 Acolyte of Pain, 1 Thalnos and 15 Raptors in the Deck". What it actually thinks is:
„There's Loothoarder, Acolyte of Pain, Thalnos and Raptor in the Deck".
I wish I could remember where I saw that Clip to back me up better.
But I know for sure that Cards that discover from your Deck disregard Duplicates that are in it. They have to do that, otherwise it would be possible to have the same Discover Option more than once.
For Example, Your Deck is empty and you shuffle Raptors with Queen Carnassa. Then, when you play Stitched Tracker, it only gives you 1 Option, not 3.
And if you do this again, but with 3 other Minions remaining in your Deck, you should have only a 1/4 Chance to get a Raptor.
Honestly, I think 5 Mana 5-5 with Rush alone is already prettty solid. If Menagerie Warrior becomes a Thing, this could easily be one of its Powerhouses.
Cards that dicover from your Deck only look at unique ones, which is the Reason why you're not offered Duplicates in the first Place. Stitched Tracker and Shadow Visions for Example could offer you only 2 Choices, although your Deck is stacked with them.
I can't remember who (maybe Disguised Toast?), but someone tested how Shadow Visions works a while back. They emptied their Deck, until there were only a Couple of Spells left, and then shuffled Tons of Jade Idols into It. After playing multiple Shadow Visions they found out that Jade Idol was offered at the same Rate as the other remaining Spells.
I'm also experiencing some Issues. Getting stuck on the Loading Screen and a Bug during the Treasure/Card Selection.
I'm not really convinced. Like, you probably want to run this in Secret Hunter, but that means it has to compete with Eaglehorn Bow, one of the best Cards for that Archetype.
It would have better Chances of seeing Play with 3 Durability.
5 Mana 5-5 Rush alone is quite good.
I don't know into what kind of Deck it could fit rn though. Maybe some aggressive Midrange Hunter? Or maybe it's gonna be another Addition to Highlander.
Best Card that Hunter got imo.
On Average, you should'nt have too much of a Problem to have this summon 2 Minions on T3. There's the new Secret, Open the Cages, and a Couple of others, that usually don't trigger that easily early on in the Game.
You could probably put this into any Hunter Deck that runs 2 different Secrets, have it perform just fine.
1 Khartut Defender alone already gives you a good Defense the Turn you play this. But outside of that, there's not many big Deathrattles in Standard atm that you would want to resurect. There's Darkmoon Tonk and maybe Plagued Protodrake and [Hearthstone Card (Oblvitron) Not Found].
But I could see this easily become very powerfull in later Expansions.
I wouldn't be surprised if they at least experiment with it a bit.
I'll definitely try it in Control Priest, since there are some premium-but-high-Cost AoEs, like Plague of Death or Psychic Scream.
Love those Cost reducing Cards for Priest! They usually have pretty costly Spells, so this and Palm Reading could definetly see some Play.
And Reno Priest in Wild could get even spicier.
Ooohh.... I like that Semi-Diamond Spellstone for Hunter!
Next Level Casino Mage!
Why not simply run Shadowstep?
The only Use i see for this is bouncing a big Battlecry, but I don't think that Rogue wants to run expensive Minions.
Just +1 Durability away from being great imo.
Reminds me off Luna's Pocket Galaxy.
I tried to find the Clip I was talking about earlier and eventually came across this Reddit Thread:
https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/6jb2p5/question_about_shadow_visions/
It links to a Response by Peter Whalen confirming that Copies do increase the Odds of discovering certain Cards.
Well, looks like I haven't been playing Shadow Visions to the best of its Abilities all this Time ;D
Sorry for my Mistake!
Reminds me of Duskbreaker.
The AoE is weaker, but it's not tied to a Condition and you can play it without screwing yourself over.
Wouldn't it be more balanced if the Condition said 10 Attack?
Like, 6 Attack in DH is not hard...
I know. And these two things correlate with each other.
What I'm trying to say is, that the Probability of a certain Card being offered to you is influenced by the Fact that it can't be displayed more than once. Like I mentioned before, Effects that dicover from your Deck treat the Cards in it as if they were unique.
If you play Stitched Tracker with 15 Raptors and 3 other Minions in your Deck, it doesn't look at it and think:
„There's 1 Loothoarder, 1 Acolyte of Pain, 1 Thalnos and 15 Raptors in the Deck". What it actually thinks is:
„There's Loothoarder, Acolyte of Pain, Thalnos and Raptor in the Deck".
I wish I could remember where I saw that Clip to back me up better.
But I know for sure that Cards that discover from your Deck disregard Duplicates that are in it. They have to do that, otherwise it would be possible to have the same Discover Option more than once.
For Example, Your Deck is empty and you shuffle Raptors with Queen Carnassa. Then, when you play Stitched Tracker, it only gives you 1 Option, not 3.
And if you do this again, but with 3 other Minions remaining in your Deck, you should have only a 1/4 Chance to get a Raptor.
Honestly, I think 5 Mana 5-5 with Rush alone is already prettty solid. If Menagerie Warrior becomes a Thing, this could easily be one of its Powerhouses.
Cards that dicover from your Deck only look at unique ones, which is the Reason why you're not offered Duplicates in the first Place. Stitched Tracker and Shadow Visions for Example could offer you only 2 Choices, although your Deck is stacked with them.
I can't remember who (maybe Disguised Toast?), but someone tested how Shadow Visions works a while back. They emptied their Deck, until there were only a Couple of Spells left, and then shuffled Tons of Jade Idols into It. After playing multiple Shadow Visions they found out that Jade Idol was offered at the same Rate as the other remaining Spells.
Doesn't seem that good. Hitting a specific Card will be very hard, unless you have 3 or less in your Deck.
It might look great with Shuffling Stuff, but adding Cards to your Deck doesn't increase the Odds of discovering them, so...
But... Maybe you could run it in Highlander Rogue with some Duplicates?
EDIT: Nevermind, I was wrong about that! Egg on my Face.