I randomly stumbled upon #12 and finished the hunt. I'm seriously confused why #12 is #12. Can someone please explain it to me? Was the card changed before it got released?
Rn I am trying to find the cake pieces scattered across some hs card pages. I must say, that some references are a good trip down memory lane, but others are kinda ambiguous. Like, for the 8th clue I came up with three good solutions, but at the end neither of those were correct.
Well, we could give you a description of the typical wild meta, if you feel like trying it out. If you don't have a lot of cards, Odd DH is a fairly cheap deck. Quest Mage - the deck everyone tries to counter - is also relatively cheap:
[edit] Come to think of it, the cheapest popular decks are: Handbuff Mech Paladin, Discard Zoolock, Secret Mage, Pirate Token Druid (dunno how viable it is though) and Even Totem Shaman (-//-).
I haven't tried out the decks you are playing, so I can't give you any tips on how to pilot them optimally, but I will say, that the best decision is to play whatever you want. It may sound like a cliche, but it's the truth. At least for me. The current ranking system is friendlier than the previous one and it allows for more variety on the ladder.
I would like to say the following not to brag, but to prove my point. I reached Legend four times in the new ranking system - twice in standard and twice in wild. In standard I ran Quest Resurrection Priest, which might be hated by a lot of players, but it was and still is considered to be a tier 4 deck. And in wild I ran two semi-casual Thief Priest decks - N'zoth and Raza. My goal was to have fun, while I was ranking, and I really enjoyed the time playing those decks - especially the wild ones.
So try to enjoy your time on the ladder as much as you can. Legend will come eventually. Also, in the past I constantly made some tweaks to my decks, in order to deal better with the competition. With this I don't mean adding tech cards like oozes, but more like strong class cards, which are good in various situations. If you feel like certain cards are underwhelming, you could decide to replace those with such, that counter your local meta more. Also, hsdecktracker will prove to be extremely useful - you should use it, if you aren't doing it already.
[Edit] Going from D3-Legend in a single day isn't impossible. You just have to have a good win-streak. If you don't have that much time, you could stop here and try again next season. But if the thing holding you back is the fear of not succeeding, then you should definitely try reaching legend tomorrow, since luck might be in your side.
I have been playing "Control" Priest in a wild for a very long time, so from personal experience I can say the following:
A PURE control deck is something around N'zoth, because you get to use a bunch of defensive options and duplicates in your deck (this increases the chances of finding an AoE on time) and if you run the quest too, you can build your own Reno. The problem with this deck is, that it doesn't feature a good win-condition beside outvaluing your opponent and it may fall flat against combo decks. In my versions of this archtype I run a Thief package, because I like to mess around with other people, but I have seen less greedier builds that featured Mecha'thun or King Togwaggle + Murozond the Infinite.
The other good "control" deck is Raza Priest, which is more of a combo than control, but it depends on how you build it. Imho the biggest problem with this deck is, that it's draw dependent. I run a much greedier list, so it's normal for me to struggle sometimes, but running 1 copy of each card makes any deck inconsistent. + I think it's weak against Quest Mage, because it doesn't run any taunts and can't deal with the mage's wave of giants. Not to mention, it can also lose to the new Mecha'thun warlock, unless the player gets a really lucky Dirty Rat pull.
Other honorable mentions - Dragon Burn Priest (the problem is healing, mostly comes from Greater Healing Potion) and Big Priest.
you guys thought taking two turns as a quest reward in Mage was toxic?
Try Runeterra where the Scout mechanic gives you two attacks per turn.
Soo something like windfury or charge and windfury?
No it's like taking another turn but you don't draw or refill your mana. Runeterra is a little different. Charge isn't a thing because summoning sickness isn't a thing. Scout gives you a full second round of attacking. Sometimes you're in a position where your deck's win condition vs your opponent is simply to have a turn to breathe and catch up on board. Scout means that's never going to happen.
Finally. Fucking finally. After so many failed attempts, Chameleos finally turned into Time Warp. Luckily for me my opponent didn't have an Ice Block, so I defeated them on the following turn.
Nope, the taunt would have left me with 0 mana and I had no answer in hand or I would have saved Zeph up for later use (see first screenshot). I figured it was brawl or die and tried to push him in that direction but he obviously knew better.
Yeah, I know. I just tried to explain the taunt option argument. I meant to say, that Zephrys might have thought, that you already had a clear in hand and that you needed a taunt for the next turn.
[edit] After rereading the last sentence, I came to the conclusion that it sounds a bit dumb. I tried to say, that Zephrys gives you a variety of options to deal with a certain scenario. Since he can't see the contents of your hand, he can't decide on his own how appropriate his options are and whether he should give you sth else. In some scenarios the tempo option is better, especially when combined with support from hand. That's what I tried to say. But after a further consideration, the taunt option here does sound like a whiff. In the case of the healing spell, Zephrys gave you some mana to spare with, so if you had a 2-mana removal or a taunt, Healing Touch would have granted you more HP. But, yeah, the druid card is worse than the worst Brawl outcome, so you are right that with this logic Zephrys should have given you the warrior board clear instead of the druid minion.
Ah, that last paragraph explains it. Holy Nova was fine for me, I see why he offered this. I just didn't get the other two because even if my opponent would have traded into the taunt the best possible way for me, that would have been worse than the worst possible brawl outcome. But now you mention it I remember a stream or something where they explained that Zeph always (?) goes for a variety of answers, like offering taunt, aoe and heal if you use him defensively. Thank you!
Np. Maybe Zephrys assumed, that you had a board clear (or some sort of an answer) in hand and that's why he decided to give you the taunt?
Sorry for the necro but can someone tell me what I'm missing here?
I was specifically looking for Brawl and while Holy Nova at least makes a bit of sense, the other two just seem weird. I guess I would have lost anyway but who knows if Alex wouldn't have sent me some heal. As it stood, my opponent used the remaining 4 attack on board plus Soulfire to finish me next turn.
The problem is, that Zephrys doesn't see what class/deck your opponent is playing and he can't figure out the possibility of them having burst from hand. He's not coded to work like this. Check this post:
If others are willing to look beyond the OP's framing to the broader question, I would be interested in what other scenarios people have seen go awry. One thing I've noticed in playing against Zephrys is what seems like a fairly limited card pool. If I'm a turn away from lethal, my opponent almost always plays Tirion Fordring the same turn as Zephrys. But one thing that the AI clearly doesn't weigh – but that the human player should – is that I'm playing Rogue, so have numerous ways to get Tirion out of the way or to ping off his Divine Shield. Sap? Game over. Fan of Knives, Lackeys, SI:7 Agent, whatever. So I'd say there were two separate problems that the Tirion scenario draws out:
1) Lack of awareness of opponent's class identity. The AI doesn't need to know exactly what cards I'm holding to know whether I'm more or less likely to have answers based purely on the spells available to my class (in Standard at least).
2) General lack of options. Like I said, Tirion is produced literally every time. But objectively, even something like Khartut Defender something else might be a better option if you're a turn away from certain death. (I mean, even in the OP's scenario, if the other player was at 1 HP, why even offer Swipe, Fireball, and Eviscerate? Why not Shiv?)
That and also the fact, that the enemy board consisted of weak and fragile minions. He also saw how both you and your drake were low on health, so he gave you a self healing AoE. (If the opponent had had some sticky 4-attack+ minions on the board, Zephrys would have also considered giving you Chaos Nova or Brawl. And, no, the divine shielded minions don't count in your case, because their damage alone wouldn't have been enough to kill you.) Giving you a Brawl as you desired, even if it corresponded to your mana and might have saved you in your case, would have put you in a worse board state (tempowise). The AoE could have whiffed; Zephrys wanted to give you a 100% secure answer. That's why Holy Nova makes a lot of sense.
And since he already gave you a board clear, I assume, that Zephrys thought the other options should be different. Hence he gave you some healing and a 5-mana taunt.
For a while now I have been thinking, that Zephrys is plain retarded. But after the game I just finished, I am certain this is true. Just take a look:
I was almost dead against an odd demon hunter. Why THE FUCK would Zephrys the Great give me Healing Touch instead of Holy Light, while I was sitting at 2 mana?!? I was on the brink of dying and I got the more expensive healing option... Thankfully the DH didn't have enough damage that turn (he was 1 off lethal), which gave me plenty of time to recover and to win. But HOLY FUCKING SHIT the offered cards triggered me a lot.
Sigh. I just had a good opening hand and a good start. Crystalline Oracle into an Expired Merchant, Drakonid Operative discovers me Bloodreaver Gul'dan and I steal a Voidlord with Shadow Madness and kill it with Forbidden Words on my side. Guess what, disconnect happened and I couldn't reconnect due to Blizzard's stupid dc cooldown. I managed to fix my internet, but the battlenet didn't let me log in on time. Fucking hate their battlenet launcher.
[edit] It happened to me again, but in that game I was already in a losing position, so it didn't matter. But the weird thing is, that when I got the error message, I checked my internet connection and it was working. The client told me it couldn't reconnect me, but yet I went to youtube and the page loaded normally. Dafuq.
As for #14 - it's not that evil, just mean.
I randomly stumbled upon #12 and finished the hunt. I'm seriously confused why #12 is #12. Can someone please explain it to me? Was the card changed before it got released?
Rn I am trying to find the cake pieces scattered across some hs card pages. I must say, that some references are a good trip down memory lane, but others are kinda ambiguous. Like, for the 8th clue I came up with three good solutions, but at the end neither of those were correct.
Guess I should search harder.
While I was doing this, I got greeted by a random WRY(yy).
Well, we could give you a description of the typical wild meta, if you feel like trying it out. If you don't have a lot of cards, Odd DH is a fairly cheap deck. Quest Mage - the deck everyone tries to counter - is also relatively cheap:
https://outof.cards/hearthstone/decks/14505-w-quest
(this list misses an Evocation)
[edit] Come to think of it, the cheapest popular decks are: Handbuff Mech Paladin, Discard Zoolock, Secret Mage, Pirate Token Druid (dunno how viable it is though) and Even Totem Shaman (-//-).
@ OP
I haven't tried out the decks you are playing, so I can't give you any tips on how to pilot them optimally, but I will say, that the best decision is to play whatever you want. It may sound like a cliche, but it's the truth. At least for me. The current ranking system is friendlier than the previous one and it allows for more variety on the ladder.
I would like to say the following not to brag, but to prove my point. I reached Legend four times in the new ranking system - twice in standard and twice in wild. In standard I ran Quest Resurrection Priest, which might be hated by a lot of players, but it was and still is considered to be a tier 4 deck. And in wild I ran two semi-casual Thief Priest decks - N'zoth and Raza. My goal was to have fun, while I was ranking, and I really enjoyed the time playing those decks - especially the wild ones.
So try to enjoy your time on the ladder as much as you can. Legend will come eventually. Also, in the past I constantly made some tweaks to my decks, in order to deal better with the competition. With this I don't mean adding tech cards like oozes, but more like strong class cards, which are good in various situations. If you feel like certain cards are underwhelming, you could decide to replace those with such, that counter your local meta more. Also, hsdecktracker will prove to be extremely useful - you should use it, if you aren't doing it already.
[Edit] Going from D3-Legend in a single day isn't impossible. You just have to have a good win-streak. If you don't have that much time, you could stop here and try again next season. But if the thing holding you back is the fear of not succeeding, then you should definitely try reaching legend tomorrow, since luck might be in your side.
I have been playing "Control" Priest in a wild for a very long time, so from personal experience I can say the following:
A PURE control deck is something around N'zoth, because you get to use a bunch of defensive options and duplicates in your deck (this increases the chances of finding an AoE on time) and if you run the quest too, you can build your own Reno. The problem with this deck is, that it doesn't feature a good win-condition beside outvaluing your opponent and it may fall flat against combo decks. In my versions of this archtype I run a Thief package, because I like to mess around with other people, but I have seen less greedier builds that featured Mecha'thun or King Togwaggle + Murozond the Infinite.
The other good "control" deck is Raza Priest, which is more of a combo than control, but it depends on how you build it. Imho the biggest problem with this deck is, that it's draw dependent. I run a much greedier list, so it's normal for me to struggle sometimes, but running 1 copy of each card makes any deck inconsistent. + I think it's weak against Quest Mage, because it doesn't run any taunts and can't deal with the mage's wave of giants. Not to mention, it can also lose to the new Mecha'thun warlock, unless the player gets a really lucky Dirty Rat pull.
Other honorable mentions - Dragon Burn Priest (the problem is healing, mostly comes from Greater Healing Potion) and Big Priest.
Aha, I see. Thanks for the clarification.
Finally. Fucking finally. After so many failed attempts, Chameleos finally turned into Time Warp. Luckily for me my opponent didn't have an Ice Block, so I defeated them on the following turn.
Soo something like windfury or charge and windfury?
While we are on this topic, please check the following pic:
In your opinion what cards should I have gotten?
Answer:
As you can imagine, I didn't lose the game. But Zephrys' choices made me speechless.
I was in a similar situation before. I think this is due to the fact, that Zephrys doesn't read the deathrattle effects of some minions.
Btw, speaking of a Zephrys whiff, check Kibler's new video:
https://youtu.be/oht-7ToAdrA?t=428
Yeah, I know. I just tried to explain the taunt option argument. I meant to say, that Zephrys might have thought, that you already had a clear in hand and that you needed a taunt for the next turn.
[edit] After rereading the last sentence, I came to the conclusion that it sounds a bit dumb. I tried to say, that Zephrys gives you a variety of options to deal with a certain scenario. Since he can't see the contents of your hand, he can't decide on his own how appropriate his options are and whether he should give you sth else. In some scenarios the tempo option is better, especially when combined with support from hand. That's what I tried to say. But after a further consideration, the taunt option here does sound like a whiff. In the case of the healing spell, Zephrys gave you some mana to spare with, so if you had a 2-mana removal or a taunt, Healing Touch would have granted you more HP. But, yeah, the druid card is worse than the worst Brawl outcome, so you are right that with this logic Zephrys should have given you the warrior board clear instead of the druid minion.
Np. Maybe Zephrys assumed, that you had a board clear (or some sort of an answer) in hand and that's why he decided to give you the taunt?
The problem is, that Zephrys doesn't see what class/deck your opponent is playing and he can't figure out the possibility of them having burst from hand. He's not coded to work like this. Check this post:
That and also the fact, that the enemy board consisted of weak and fragile minions. He also saw how both you and your drake were low on health, so he gave you a self healing AoE. (If the opponent had had some sticky 4-attack+ minions on the board, Zephrys would have also considered giving you Chaos Nova or Brawl. And, no, the divine shielded minions don't count in your case, because their damage alone wouldn't have been enough to kill you.) Giving you a Brawl as you desired, even if it corresponded to your mana and might have saved you in your case, would have put you in a worse board state (tempowise). The AoE could have whiffed; Zephrys wanted to give you a 100% secure answer. That's why Holy Nova makes a lot of sense.
And since he already gave you a board clear, I assume, that Zephrys thought the other options should be different. Hence he gave you some healing and a 5-mana taunt.
I really want to get her, but the shop is closed for me.
For a while now I have been thinking, that Zephrys is plain retarded. But after the game I just finished, I am certain this is true. Just take a look:
I was almost dead against an odd demon hunter. Why THE FUCK would Zephrys the Great give me Healing Touch instead of Holy Light, while I was sitting at 2 mana?!? I was on the brink of dying and I got the more expensive healing option... Thankfully the DH didn't have enough damage that turn (he was 1 off lethal), which gave me plenty of time to recover and to win. But HOLY FUCKING SHIT the offered cards triggered me a lot.
Sigh. I just had a good opening hand and a good start. Crystalline Oracle into an Expired Merchant, Drakonid Operative discovers me Bloodreaver Gul'dan and I steal a Voidlord with Shadow Madness and kill it with Forbidden Words on my side. Guess what, disconnect happened and I couldn't reconnect due to Blizzard's stupid dc cooldown. I managed to fix my internet, but the battlenet didn't let me log in on time. Fucking hate their battlenet launcher.
[edit] It happened to me again, but in that game I was already in a losing position, so it didn't matter. But the weird thing is, that when I got the error message, I checked my internet connection and it was working. The client told me it couldn't reconnect me, but yet I went to youtube and the page loaded normally. Dafuq.
Any news when the shop would become available again?