Getting it down to 0 might be hard yeah but still if it is a 4 mana 6-6 overwhelm is also pretty good.
Like you said playing only one card like sonic wave means there is already 2 cost removed from the unit.
Maybe be able to support 2 characters and 1 or 2 other spells that targets a friendly character and you already got a decent cost minion with good stats.
Sucks to get it early though yeah really something you want to draw around turn 6/7 i think for it to be good.
I think ''Nullify'' means that noxian fervor simply won't go off so the friendly ally who was supposed to receive 3 damage doesn't take the 3 damage aswell.
Getting that 0+2 on the right target can be a game changer combined with the other support card ''Mountain Sojourners'' that gives 2+2 to this card and then 2+2 to the supported ally makes an character pretty hard to kill.
Nice a good reward for support characters, maybe a Shen deck with Targon? since Iona already has multiple support cards, and i think Taric may be a support champion.
Anyone else think Maokai and Nautilus is to easy to complete?
Often enough they can simply stall until turn 7-8 thanks to multiple removal spells, and the small costed units that are also very beneficial towards their core strategy completion and it heals them.
Then turn 8-9 sometimes as early as turn 7 as in this instance your either dead or have to trade in most of your board towards overstatted minions which means your most likely gonna lose next turn.
And if that doesn't occur your deck being obliterated before you have even reached turn 10 also does the trick.
Only way my decks really are able to beat em is if i either play hyper aggro and kill em before Nautilus comes down or they are extremely unlucky and neither draw Maokai and Nautilus.
Otherwise all my other slower decks are basically insta-lose.
Yeah i thought about combination possibilities but some legends have less combination options than others which could be the case for new cards released in the sets, if you look at Maokai and Nautilus sure you can combine it with other legends instead of those 2 together but the most obvious and strong option for that deck is to combine those 2 together and that is the most likely version you're gonna face.
And mirror matches can have multiple reasons why they can occur they don't have to bound by 1 reason.
The novelty of new cards is 1 reason why mirror matches can occur as well, multiple players that want to experiment with the newly released cards.
I'm expecting the first release of the expansion to be quite nice due to the 7 champions you got some diversity, but the second and 3rd set have such small champion pools that i'm just expecting alot of mirror matches with small variations during those days since every1 is probably gonna want to play the new cards.
Not trying to pop ur bubble but IwatchUSleep ain't completely wrong there are a ton of LoR players i have seen alot of variations of hecarim kalista decks already. The fact that you made the deck 3/4 days ago while this current meta already has been out for almost 4 months makes it extremely unlikely that no1 has made a similiar varation as yours before you did.
I believe i have seen the deck already since atleast a month ago maybe even more.
Prob does good but thats because of the very limited reaction tools the game provides. (more in terms of healing against all the burn/dealing with the elusives because normal blockers aren't worth much in that situation)
One of the reasons i'm just waiting for the next expansion facing elusive/burn and the very small variations of that deck is just eh.
Have touched the game very little over last week.
You know what's gonna happen and you either get the tools to combat this deck or you don't and its in a very time limited manner as you say around 3 to 6 or 7 turns they probably have lethal.
Atleast in the description of your deck you've added ''Everything about this seems optimal, designed for ranked, don't play in the casual que because that's not very nice.'' pretty funny.
Why you added this tho? ''It just feel great every round, you always feel like games are yours to loose'' not really sure what you mean by that although i have a assumption.
Only the 3 mana cost the ''elusive'' turrets are a big problem, a 8-8 t-hex robot dinosaur you can block with chump blockers but 4 times 3-1 elusives becomes to difficult for a majority of decks.
Try and get Maokai leveled up by having friendly units die instead of toss, with snapvine the amount of deaths of friendly allies that get registered goes fast pretty quickly.
With the undying on board you get +1 death added each turn plus a snapvine that can block/attack.
The same goes for maokais saplings they also get turned into snapvines at the start of the turn so alot of cheap minions that get turned into decent bodies.
In a way yeah with alot of small cost spells you in later turns have usually enough mana and resources left to protect Fizz, the only issue is when you're facing other elusive decks since thats big part of his gimmick can't attack if they have 3/4 elusive units on the board.
If a person uses Ionia you can use the 2 mana spell that challenges a minion and creates a spell that gives +2 damage to a minion to get around elusives blocking Fizz's way the 1 cost units from the spells double trouble etc come in handy then.
And try to use your slow spells to activate fizz's elusive so that you have a fast/burst spell for when fizz is about to strike the nexus in case they decide to answer.
Made a deck using heimerdinger and fizz creating a ton of small guys with the cards jailbreak and double trouble. (spawn 1 cost guys) combined with yipp makes decent sized bodies.
Flash of brilliance and trail of evidence make really good supporting cards for both fizz (leveling him up since it requires you to play 6 spells even if Fizz isn't on the board on top of that the burst and small cost assures you that you can ''remove'' one of their spells if they try to target fizz., and for Heimerdinger if they try to remove him thanks to the burst you still get value of him.
Mystifying magician can turn your 1 drops/heimerdinger units into random 5 drops.
Progress day is just for draw though combined with heimer the 8 mana body is nice.
Mind melt is a big finisher card because thanks to the lots of spells in your deck the generated units through the cards like jailbreak, double trouble and units generated by heimerdinger combined with other spells you can get a massive board.
There is a card that boosts damage from shrooms the ship from Gangplank doubles every damage you your allies/skills whatever do so if you got that on the board and the opponent draws 3 schrooms they get 6 damage.
Maokai feels pretty absurd yeah have played the maokai deep deck myself and basically winning by turn 6/7 because you already finished the maokai win condition is OP.
Any deck that is more focused on late game will most likely lose in my experience having played the deck myself and versus it.
With all the elusive decks that i'm seeing playing fizz is kinda bad unless you got tons of spells to let him survive versus other elusive followers/champions.
Pretty nice when you can block their spells with fizz tho.
Same reason why teemo is bad but teemo has the extra downside of being more targetable by spells compared to fizz.
Getting it down to 0 might be hard yeah but still if it is a 4 mana 6-6 overwhelm is also pretty good.
Like you said playing only one card like sonic wave means there is already 2 cost removed from the unit.
Maybe be able to support 2 characters and 1 or 2 other spells that targets a friendly character and you already got a decent cost minion with good stats.
Sucks to get it early though yeah really something you want to draw around turn 6/7 i think for it to be good.
Bastion is a ability of taric in LoL.
I think ''Nullify'' means that noxian fervor simply won't go off so the friendly ally who was supposed to receive 3 damage doesn't take the 3 damage aswell.
Getting that 0+2 on the right target can be a game changer combined with the other support card ''Mountain Sojourners'' that gives 2+2 to this card and then 2+2 to the supported ally makes an character pretty hard to kill.
Nice a good reward for support characters, maybe a Shen deck with Targon? since Iona already has multiple support cards, and i think Taric may be a support champion.
https://imgur.com/a/N9sRhcN
Anyone else think Maokai and Nautilus is to easy to complete?
Often enough they can simply stall until turn 7-8 thanks to multiple removal spells, and the small costed units that are also very beneficial towards their core strategy completion and it heals them.
Then turn 8-9 sometimes as early as turn 7 as in this instance your either dead or have to trade in most of your board towards overstatted minions which means your most likely gonna lose next turn.
And if that doesn't occur your deck being obliterated before you have even reached turn 10 also does the trick.
Only way my decks really are able to beat em is if i either play hyper aggro and kill em before Nautilus comes down or they are extremely unlucky and neither draw Maokai and Nautilus.
Otherwise all my other slower decks are basically insta-lose.
Yeah its a may or may not.
Would be nice to see some yeti/poro or puffcup support.
Yeah i thought about combination possibilities but some legends have less combination options than others which could be the case for new cards released in the sets, if you look at Maokai and Nautilus sure you can combine it with other legends instead of those 2 together but the most obvious and strong option for that deck is to combine those 2 together and that is the most likely version you're gonna face.
And mirror matches can have multiple reasons why they can occur they don't have to bound by 1 reason.
The novelty of new cards is 1 reason why mirror matches can occur as well, multiple players that want to experiment with the newly released cards.
I'm expecting the first release of the expansion to be quite nice due to the 7 champions you got some diversity, but the second and 3rd set have such small champion pools that i'm just expecting alot of mirror matches with small variations during those days since every1 is probably gonna want to play the new cards.
Not trying to pop ur bubble but IwatchUSleep ain't completely wrong there are a ton of LoR players i have seen alot of variations of hecarim kalista decks already. The fact that you made the deck 3/4 days ago while this current meta already has been out for almost 4 months makes it extremely unlikely that no1 has made a similiar varation as yours before you did.
I believe i have seen the deck already since atleast a month ago maybe even more.
Still have to wait until august 28th?
My hype has already pretty died out this week with all the waiting think they really should have teased at least small bits already.
Prob does good but thats because of the very limited reaction tools the game provides. (more in terms of healing against all the burn/dealing with the elusives because normal blockers aren't worth much in that situation)
One of the reasons i'm just waiting for the next expansion facing elusive/burn and the very small variations of that deck is just eh.
Have touched the game very little over last week.
You know what's gonna happen and you either get the tools to combat this deck or you don't and its in a very time limited manner as you say around 3 to 6 or 7 turns they probably have lethal.
Atleast in the description of your deck you've added ''Everything about this seems optimal, designed for ranked, don't play in the casual que because that's not very nice.'' pretty funny.
Why you added this tho? ''It just feel great every round, you always feel like games are yours to loose'' not really sure what you mean by that although i have a assumption.
Only the 3 mana cost the ''elusive'' turrets are a big problem, a 8-8 t-hex robot dinosaur you can block with chump blockers but 4 times 3-1 elusives becomes to difficult for a majority of decks.
Try and get Maokai leveled up by having friendly units die instead of toss, with snapvine the amount of deaths of friendly allies that get registered goes fast pretty quickly.
With the undying on board you get +1 death added each turn plus a snapvine that can block/attack.
The same goes for maokais saplings they also get turned into snapvines at the start of the turn so alot of cheap minions that get turned into decent bodies.
In a way yeah with alot of small cost spells you in later turns have usually enough mana and resources left to protect Fizz, the only issue is when you're facing other elusive decks since thats big part of his gimmick can't attack if they have 3/4 elusive units on the board.
If a person uses Ionia you can use the 2 mana spell that challenges a minion and creates a spell that gives +2 damage to a minion to get around elusives blocking Fizz's way the 1 cost units from the spells double trouble etc come in handy then.
And try to use your slow spells to activate fizz's elusive so that you have a fast/burst spell for when fizz is about to strike the nexus in case they decide to answer.
Made a deck using heimerdinger and fizz creating a ton of small guys with the cards jailbreak and double trouble. (spawn 1 cost guys) combined with yipp makes decent sized bodies.
Flash of brilliance and trail of evidence make really good supporting cards for both fizz (leveling him up since it requires you to play 6 spells even if Fizz isn't on the board on top of that the burst and small cost assures you that you can ''remove'' one of their spells if they try to target fizz., and for Heimerdinger if they try to remove him thanks to the burst you still get value of him.
Mystifying magician can turn your 1 drops/heimerdinger units into random 5 drops.
Progress day is just for draw though combined with heimer the 8 mana body is nice.
Mind melt is a big finisher card because thanks to the lots of spells in your deck the generated units through the cards like jailbreak, double trouble and units generated by heimerdinger combined with other spells you can get a massive board.
https://imgur.com/a/uGHVwzh
I didn't printscreen the effect after the mind melt but they were all 6-6 and gave me lethal.
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Deck isn't optimized was just having fun with it.
I tried to delete this since it didn't add a picture of a deck i was playing.
A maokai snapvine deck.
https://imgur.com/a/zxYcrrz
Here is the link for a picture of the deck pretty fun.
There is a card that boosts damage from shrooms the ship from Gangplank doubles every damage you your allies/skills whatever do so if you got that on the board and the opponent draws 3 schrooms they get 6 damage.
Have played a few games teemo/gangplank.
https://outof.cards/legends-of-runeterra/cards/561-the-dreadway
Maokai feels pretty absurd yeah have played the maokai deep deck myself and basically winning by turn 6/7 because you already finished the maokai win condition is OP.
Any deck that is more focused on late game will most likely lose in my experience having played the deck myself and versus it.
With all the elusive decks that i'm seeing playing fizz is kinda bad unless you got tons of spells to let him survive versus other elusive followers/champions.
Pretty nice when you can block their spells with fizz tho.
Same reason why teemo is bad but teemo has the extra downside of being more targetable by spells compared to fizz.