And every other post of yours that isn't in the salt thread, might as well belong there too. That of it.
Ah yes, the good old 'control is only 30 removal card decks'. Fine, have it your way. My point still stands. All of those decks completely stomp the field you described to be in, and none of them classify as aggro, which you seem to be allergic to for some reason.
Learn to pick the right decks or git gud. That's all.
non stop eh? I haven't posted here in months. i was not exaggerating anything here, I was facing mostly old decks with no new cards for two days straight. and no, current control decks do not counter aggro.
Non stop in the fact that every time you do post, they're all similar to this.
Non stop in the sense that I have not seen you post anything positive once.
Current control decks absolutely do counter aggro, what? Libram paladin, quest shaman, fel demon hunter. All of them have an extremely easy time against priests, hunters and warriors that you've been whining about.
First off, what deck you play is extremely relevant. Not only are certain decks far harder to play optimally, even if they may not look like it at first glance, they may also be a poor matchup into whatever you're facing.
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I played eg. Beast Hunter 0/5, switched to Quest Shaman 0/3.
I wrote that down already?
...and then you proceeded to say this in your next post:
"Ok to resay it again: the questions what decks I play is irrelevant. "
So you clearly still don't understand why people ask this. Which is why I pointed it out, again.
First off, what deck you play is extremely relevant. Not only are certain decks far harder to play optimally, even if they may not look like it at first glance, they may also be a poor matchup into whatever you're facing.
Second, this game, like most other card games, is still heavily rng and percentage dependant. Some days you will draw the worst possible cards and get screwed over by RNG. That happens to literally everyone. What matters is that you identify whether you played correctly, rather than giving up immediately just because you bricked or because your opponent drew the nuts.
Third, wild is definitely an easier format than standard. That most likely explains why you do better there. Not only are the good decks easier to play because their power levels are so high, you also face more casual players. There's no incentive for the best players to play the format, and decks are generally a lot less refined and optimal due to there being less meta reports and whatnot compared to standard.
This becomes even more apparent when you play meme decks/tier 3 and below decks. In standard, at decent mmr, the majority of decks will be refined and meme decks get punished far harder and more often by these decks.
So again, if you actually want to win more games in standard, and this isn't just some disguised salt thread, then people will only be able to help you if you share some replays, really.
I mean, no one's gonna be able to help you if you don't share any replays. The only general advice to give is to play the good decks, which agentmcr has already done.
Quest hunter should be dead so you don't have to worry about that deck, most decks can beat it. By big warlock, do you mean even warlock?
The best deck period right now is freeze shaman. If you want to hard counter pirate warriors you can play inner fire priest. If you want your games to end in 4 turns (and thus climb really fast), give shadow priest a go.
Vicious syndicate has a tier list, matchup spreads and good decklists.
Hearthstone-topdecks has a lot of decklists which are bait with weird deck inclusions. Wouldn't recommend blindly copying lists from there unless you know which players are good deck builders.
You're extremely naive if you think these nerfs only help aggro decks. Given your tone I assume you're a control player. Do you know what happens when aggro can punish rogues harder? More of them will show up.
Do you know what happens when more aggro decks show up? Control decks can start preying on them and gain more breathing room because rogues are kept in check by the aggro decks.
These balance changes seem perfect for the current meta.
Eventually Kurthrus, Cariel, Tamsin and Guff will most likely get touched too, as they're only slightly less busted than scabbs. But that's probably for another time.
Bru'kan is a lot more versatile as bearon will only ever work in decks that hard commit to freeze synergy. So he is the obvious choice. It may be worth waiting for a bit, as theodrinus said, given that balance changes and an inevitable change in the meta are around the corner.
And every other post of yours that isn't in the salt thread, might as well belong there too. That of it.
Ah yes, the good old 'control is only 30 removal card decks'. Fine, have it your way. My point still stands. All of those decks completely stomp the field you described to be in, and none of them classify as aggro, which you seem to be allergic to for some reason.
Learn to pick the right decks or git gud. That's all.
Non stop in the fact that every time you do post, they're all similar to this.
Non stop in the sense that I have not seen you post anything positive once.
Current control decks absolutely do counter aggro, what? Libram paladin, quest shaman, fel demon hunter. All of them have an extremely easy time against priests, hunters and warriors that you've been whining about.
Because you're incapable of countering decks and instead come to these forums to whinge about it non stop.
Hurt durr all I face is aggro should I play a control deck to counter it or just complain about it instead?
To out of cards we go!
...and then you proceeded to say this in your next post:
"Ok to resay it again: the questions what decks I play is irrelevant. "
So you clearly still don't understand why people ask this. Which is why I pointed it out, again.
Hearthstone mathematics is a similar caliber of youtuber as zeddy.
Instant disregard
Looking at the latest vs meta report 3/10 top decks can be considered 'control' (at top 1k legend). Hand warlock, fel demon hunter and quest shaman.
'control meta' indeed...
Alright I'll try again.
First off, what deck you play is extremely relevant. Not only are certain decks far harder to play optimally, even if they may not look like it at first glance, they may also be a poor matchup into whatever you're facing.
Second, this game, like most other card games, is still heavily rng and percentage dependant. Some days you will draw the worst possible cards and get screwed over by RNG. That happens to literally everyone. What matters is that you identify whether you played correctly, rather than giving up immediately just because you bricked or because your opponent drew the nuts.
Third, wild is definitely an easier format than standard. That most likely explains why you do better there. Not only are the good decks easier to play because their power levels are so high, you also face more casual players. There's no incentive for the best players to play the format, and decks are generally a lot less refined and optimal due to there being less meta reports and whatnot compared to standard.
This becomes even more apparent when you play meme decks/tier 3 and below decks. In standard, at decent mmr, the majority of decks will be refined and meme decks get punished far harder and more often by these decks.
So again, if you actually want to win more games in standard, and this isn't just some disguised salt thread, then people will only be able to help you if you share some replays, really.
I mean, no one's gonna be able to help you if you don't share any replays. The only general advice to give is to play the good decks, which agentmcr has already done.
Ah, cool. Thanks for the source!
Good stuff. Meta seems pretty diverse for now, let's hope it stays that way this time.
People have been playing owl warlock again since the nerfs, that's the one deck I'm kind of missing here.
Oh and where did you get the shadow priest list from? I'd been looking for one since the nerfs but couldn't find anything.
Memnarch got legend with seedlock that included Genn and Baku.
Whitedelight reaches 'high' legend with jank like big shaman all the time.
What's your point, exactly?
Oh, diamond-legend might explain it. Is there any data for top legend already?
I wouldn't call the deck weak, per se. It was better when it could farm mages but it's probably still serviceable.
I'm more so talking about the featured build. Deathrattle package over pirates? Lifedrinker and spawn of shadows?
Imagine you're a shadow priest and instead of winning on turn 4 you play a 3/3 or a 5/4. That list ain't it.
Quest hunter should be dead so you don't have to worry about that deck, most decks can beat it. By big warlock, do you mean even warlock?
The best deck period right now is freeze shaman. If you want to hard counter pirate warriors you can play inner fire priest. If you want your games to end in 4 turns (and thus climb really fast), give shadow priest a go.
https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/wild-vs-data-reaper-report-30/
Vicious syndicate has a tier list, matchup spreads and good decklists.
Hearthstone-topdecks has a lot of decklists which are bait with weird deck inclusions. Wouldn't recommend blindly copying lists from there unless you know which players are good deck builders.
It's still one of the better decks all the way up to top 100 legend. If you're not desperately in need of dust, I'd keep it.
W-what is that mess of a shadow priest list, lol.
Surely that's not the 'best' list according to hsreplay?
Also, is shaman only a top legend thing? It really shouldn't be missing here.
Odd hunter is probably dead.
Pirate warrior is a little weaker but still strong.
Shaman is public enemy #1 and there doesn't really seem to be anything that consistently beats it, yet.
You're extremely naive if you think these nerfs only help aggro decks. Given your tone I assume you're a control player. Do you know what happens when aggro can punish rogues harder? More of them will show up.
Do you know what happens when more aggro decks show up? Control decks can start preying on them and gain more breathing room because rogues are kept in check by the aggro decks.
These balance changes seem perfect for the current meta.
Eventually Kurthrus, Cariel, Tamsin and Guff will most likely get touched too, as they're only slightly less busted than scabbs. But that's probably for another time.
Bru'kan is a lot more versatile as bearon will only ever work in decks that hard commit to freeze synergy. So he is the obvious choice. It may be worth waiting for a bit, as theodrinus said, given that balance changes and an inevitable change in the meta are around the corner.
https://mobile.twitter.com/hsdecktech/status/1483635333442854913?cxt=HHwWgoCjobSe95YpAAAA
This is why.