Odd paladin and even shaman aren't aggressive decks. They're just midrange board decks and they don't hurt you if you keep the board clean enough, which you can do much easier with a full card pool, they're not a threat
Like I said, the hero power is good against burn-based decks and they're not a thing in wild. Odd rogue is the only exception, and a very good deck, but it's also very rare for some reason. Maybe people don't want to re-craft Patches
Combo druids are reasonably common where I'm at currently (R4 EU) and unlike Jade druid, they have the potential for a good matchup vs Big Priest because they can proactively win the game at some point, making the poison seeds and naturalize stall actually useful
Correct, those obviously aren't the only top decks. Murloc shaman is arguably the more popular shaman deck despite not being as good. Mech hunter is the most popular hunter deck, pirate warrior is the most popular warrior deck, aluneth mage and aggro druid still see decent play, etc...
And besides, I don't think there's any deck more suited to deal with those two midrange decks than odd warrior. You seem to be under the impression that gaining massive amounts of armor is only good versus burn decks. Do you know how aggro and midrange decks beat their opponent? By making their health 0. Just like a burn deck. Do you know which hero power is most suited to counter that strategy? It's Tank up. The warrior class has so many removal tools that running only odd cost cards is hardly a drawback. If you've played even a decent amount with or against the deck you should know this.
Looking at hsreplay only the 6th most popular druid deck seems to be combo druid. We play at the same ranks and I haven't seen a druid in my past 30 games or so. Let alone a combo druid...
There's a reason why odd warrior is back to tier 1 in team rankstar's latest meta report and top of tier 2 in tempostorm's report.
Didn't understand what you meant by "combining both odd/even" as this deck is only created with Odd cards. Either way, I will give it a shot, and thanks for all feedback.
Ah, my bad! I meant that adding double deck restrictions, going down both the only odd or only even route (only odd in your case) plus highlander, hurts consistency.
High Inquisitor Whitemane, the card is bad. Also, why run a highlander deck if you can't utilize reno and kazakus. Why not just make it a Krullock so you can run good cards like the aforementioned ones in addition to defile, spellstone and guldan...
Well, Renolock can be made as you suggested. However, I wanted to make Baku Warlock viable, and I thought Highlander package would fit well.
Hmm, I feel like combining both odd/even and highlander kills off more consistency for your deck than you can afford. Not only do you not have access to half of the cards, you're also only allowed to run a single copy of the other ones. For very little payoff to boot (Krul and one of the least impactful upgraded hero powers). But that's just my opinion, if you wanna give it a shot, good luck!
Yes, it’s 5 mana cheaper, but the huge thing is this isn’t a combo card. You aren’t gonna play stuff and then res it unless that stuff had Charge or Rush, it’s all about getting back what you lost LAST turn, with a vengeance. And it’s not just smaller beast cards, it works with big cards, it works with anything. The situation where you play a big drop, they kill it, and then you play Whitemane to get two big things down for 7 next turn will come up a lot more often than some of you seem to think, mark my words
I feel like you either don't understand or didn't read the card properly. It resummons all minions that died on the very turn that you played it. Meaning that YOU need to kill the very same minions that you want to resummon on the turn you play her.
Well said, brother, but I'm not sure what to swap him with
High Inquisitor Whitemane, the card is bad. Also, why run a highlander deck if you can't utilize reno and kazakus. Why not just make it a Krullock so you can run good cards like the aforementioned ones in addition to defile, spellstone and guldan...
Token druid is only getting faster, adding mechs and cutting slow cards such as Soul of the Forest. An 8 mana buff needs to be game-winning for druid to even consider running a single copy of, and this card doesn't fit that bill. I doubt this will see any play.
Messenger Raven already saw some play and didn't have much synergy with other cards. This deck fills the curve nicely for dragon classes that don't have access to (good) 3-drops. Decent card.
This card is nothing more than a win more card. And those generally see little to no play.
Slow decks won't have the board to do anything with it. Fast decks don't want to rely on a single 7-drop to win the board (especially because they're more focused on going face at that point as some users pointed out already). Tempo/midrange decks want one or two stand-alone big drops that they can jam as a last ditch efford to win the game (Rafaam, The Lich King, Tirion...). And combo decks... well this card doesn't draw your combo pieces nor effectively stall the game for you so yeah...
Could definitely see this working in wild. Resurrect this together with Mal'Ganis and a few Doomguards for pretty good burst damage. Maybe.
Better in my opinion than Voidlord for a Cubelock deck. This way you get good taunts, attack buff(s), and no annoying 1/3 demons when you play Bloodreaver Gul'dan. Yes, you miss out on the ever expanding 1/3s when playing against an aggro deck, but whatever.
Those annoying 1/3s are a swarm of 3/5s or even 5/7s. Cubelock uses doomguards for slow matchups and voidlords for fast matchups. This card is far inferior to voidlord to do the latter.
Yeah, but if the only good Blackrock card is Emperor, I can just craft him tbh.
As legendary, yes. But the other can be used as budget solution for some archetype, or they are still worth 400 dust each, that means a free legendary of your choice. This is a point too.
For non legendaries, the card in Blackrock are part of the dragon engine you can use in dragon warrior or dragon priest, and other interesting card too like flamewalker or grim patron. Most of Blackrock cards are used in some kind of deck, from zoolock to egg druid to the various dragon archetype you can build (warrior, priest, paladin, other).
Most cards aren't used in high tier decks, other than skulker, flamewaker, quick shot and Twilight welp. That's not worth spending 25 bucks (iirc) on.
I got 4 legendary cards, kinda pleased - but they advertised it 7$ cheaper so I will also try to sue them for that amount. On the bad note Regis got 0 legendaries - absolute trash.
- Naga Sea Witch didn´t have that big winrate, but she was nerfed because It wasn´t fun to lose against that combo.
Instead, playing and losing against Big Priest and Darkest Hour Warlock is very fun and we deserve them in the meta...
To be fair, it took them ages to finally nerf Naga Sea Witch so them taking forever to do something about big priest fits their attitude towards wild (which is caring about it as little as possible).
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Possible nerf for Big Priest in Wild would be primary Barnes, because nerfing all the ressurect effects would kill every other deck types (probably).
This is what troubles me most though. I'm afraid just nerfing Barnes at this point won't be enough. And seeing how it took the community what, a year now? Of constant bickering about big priest before they even considered doing something about it makes me feel like we'll have to go through at least another year of Anduin's utter bullcrap.
I'm just glad rogue wasn't completely butchered by its nerfs. Hooktusk rogue is extremely fun to play. Shame about the high amount of warriors though. Never liked playing against control warrior.
You can't rat, you can't giest, can't saboteur, can't dead man's hand, can't hecklebot so you auto lose to any infinite value, mill or OTK decks
Big priest is big priest. Even the fast decks have tons of big threats like giants that you won't have enough removal for because you can't play execute or omega devastator
The odd hero power was good when it was standard because it counters burn based decks, which don't really exist in wild right now. IMO, you're just sacrificing your chances to win against real meta decks in order to better your matchup against things that don't exist. Non-odd control warrior is better and I've had modest success with it last season
This is just plain wrong. The meta is currently extremely aggressive with odd paladin, odd rogue and even shaman being the top decks. Mostly because people hate losing against big priest (and I definitely can't blame them). Odd warrior absolutely thrives in such a meta, even more so if big priest wasn't a thing but that can be teched against.
You don't need combo disruptors when combo decks aren't a thing. They get absolutely blown away by aggro decks.
You also don't need execute or omega devastator. With Shield Slam, Supercollider and all the armor in the world to tank the hits big threats aren't much of an issue.
The only problem is jade druid. But I'd gladly take one tough matchup (which is quite rare because jade druid stands little to no chance against big priest) while winning against all the top decks out there.
Don't run Elysiana in wild. The only somewhat noteworthy matchups which could go to fatigue are the mirror and renolock. Neither of these decks see much play, especially at the higher ranks.
Jade druid is an autoloss unless you can somehow mill their jade idol(s). So Elysiana won't do anything there either.
Big priest is a 50/50 matchup if you change your deck a little. Add Tinkmaster Overspark and hard mulligan for it to dillute their resurrect pool early. This helps a LOT in the long run.
I'd also add a second Big Game Hunter and Supercollider. These also help a lot against even warlock and even shaman.
If you want to get even greedier against big priest, because you absolutely hate those degenerates with a passion like myself, you could add two Faceless Manipulator, using that on one of their Obsidian Statue plus a Brawl is a guaranteed boardclear.
Let me know if you need any other tips on that matchup.
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Correct, those obviously aren't the only top decks. Murloc shaman is arguably the more popular shaman deck despite not being as good. Mech hunter is the most popular hunter deck, pirate warrior is the most popular warrior deck, aluneth mage and aggro druid still see decent play, etc...
And besides, I don't think there's any deck more suited to deal with those two midrange decks than odd warrior. You seem to be under the impression that gaining massive amounts of armor is only good versus burn decks. Do you know how aggro and midrange decks beat their opponent? By making their health 0. Just like a burn deck. Do you know which hero power is most suited to counter that strategy? It's Tank up. The warrior class has so many removal tools that running only odd cost cards is hardly a drawback. If you've played even a decent amount with or against the deck you should know this.
Looking at hsreplay only the 6th most popular druid deck seems to be combo druid. We play at the same ranks and I haven't seen a druid in my past 30 games or so. Let alone a combo druid...
There's a reason why odd warrior is back to tier 1 in team rankstar's latest meta report and top of tier 2 in tempostorm's report.
Ah, my bad! I meant that adding double deck restrictions, going down both the only odd or only even route (only odd in your case) plus highlander, hurts consistency.
Either way, hope the deck works out for you.
Hmm, I feel like combining both odd/even and highlander kills off more consistency for your deck than you can afford. Not only do you not have access to half of the cards, you're also only allowed to run a single copy of the other ones. For very little payoff to boot (Krul and one of the least impactful upgraded hero powers). But that's just my opinion, if you wanna give it a shot, good luck!
I feel like you either don't understand or didn't read the card properly. It resummons all minions that died on the very turn that you played it. Meaning that YOU need to kill the very same minions that you want to resummon on the turn you play her.
She doesn't counter aoe in any way.
High Inquisitor Whitemane, the card is bad. Also, why run a highlander deck if you can't utilize reno and kazakus. Why not just make it a Krullock so you can run good cards like the aforementioned ones in addition to defile, spellstone and guldan...
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Token druid is only getting faster, adding mechs and cutting slow cards such as Soul of the Forest. An 8 mana buff needs to be game-winning for druid to even consider running a single copy of, and this card doesn't fit that bill. I doubt this will see any play.
Messenger Raven already saw some play and didn't have much synergy with other cards. This deck fills the curve nicely for dragon classes that don't have access to (good) 3-drops. Decent card.
This card is nothing more than a win more card. And those generally see little to no play.
Slow decks won't have the board to do anything with it. Fast decks don't want to rely on a single 7-drop to win the board (especially because they're more focused on going face at that point as some users pointed out already). Tempo/midrange decks want one or two stand-alone big drops that they can jam as a last ditch efford to win the game (Rafaam, The Lich King, Tirion...). And combo decks... well this card doesn't draw your combo pieces nor effectively stall the game for you so yeah...
Those annoying 1/3s are a swarm of 3/5s or even 5/7s. Cubelock uses doomguards for slow matchups and voidlords for fast matchups. This card is far inferior to voidlord to do the latter.
If it's weak in standard then it often is even weaker in wild unless there's some crazy synergy with old cards.
This isn't the case. Card is terribly overcosted.
Most cards aren't used in high tier decks, other than skulker, flamewaker, quick shot and Twilight welp. That's not worth spending 25 bucks (iirc) on.
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To be fair, it took them ages to finally nerf Naga Sea Witch so them taking forever to do something about big priest fits their attitude towards wild (which is caring about it as little as possible).
This is what troubles me most though. I'm afraid just nerfing Barnes at this point won't be enough. And seeing how it took the community what, a year now? Of constant bickering about big priest before they even considered doing something about it makes me feel like we'll have to go through at least another year of Anduin's utter bullcrap.
I'm just glad rogue wasn't completely butchered by its nerfs. Hooktusk rogue is extremely fun to play. Shame about the high amount of warriors though. Never liked playing against control warrior.
This is just plain wrong. The meta is currently extremely aggressive with odd paladin, odd rogue and even shaman being the top decks. Mostly because people hate losing against big priest (and I definitely can't blame them). Odd warrior absolutely thrives in such a meta, even more so if big priest wasn't a thing but that can be teched against.
You don't need combo disruptors when combo decks aren't a thing. They get absolutely blown away by aggro decks.
You also don't need execute or omega devastator. With Shield Slam, Supercollider and all the armor in the world to tank the hits big threats aren't much of an issue.
The only problem is jade druid. But I'd gladly take one tough matchup (which is quite rare because jade druid stands little to no chance against big priest) while winning against all the top decks out there.
Gen 3, probably due to the fact that that was my first pokemon game (Sapphire).
By far the best starters and coolest legendaries in my opinion.
Depends on what decks and cards you want.
Naxxramas and League of explorers have quite a few good cards that see play in today's meta. The other two... Not so much.
My advice would be to buy those two, if you really need those cards, and craft specific cards from the other two remaining adventures.
Don't run Elysiana in wild. The only somewhat noteworthy matchups which could go to fatigue are the mirror and renolock. Neither of these decks see much play, especially at the higher ranks.
Jade druid is an autoloss unless you can somehow mill their jade idol(s). So Elysiana won't do anything there either.
Big priest is a 50/50 matchup if you change your deck a little. Add Tinkmaster Overspark and hard mulligan for it to dillute their resurrect pool early. This helps a LOT in the long run.
I'd also add a second Big Game Hunter and Supercollider. These also help a lot against even warlock and even shaman.
If you want to get even greedier against big priest, because you absolutely hate those degenerates with a passion like myself, you could add two Faceless Manipulator, using that on one of their Obsidian Statue plus a Brawl is a guaranteed boardclear.
Let me know if you need any other tips on that matchup.